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coal compression

02/21/2009 11:37 AM

if you compressed coal then ignited it would it yield more energy but have the same co2 emissions? this would help yield our coal reductions if it works. how would i find out?

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Re: coal compression

02/21/2009 12:57 PM

No. Coal is most efficiently burned by doing almost the opposite -- by pulverizing it and burning it, with the most efficient coal power plants being fluidized bed (meaning that the coal acts more or less as a fluid).

The heat energy output of any fuel depends on the mass of the fuel. A solid pound of coal will burn slowly and liberate about 10,000 btu of heat. Pulverize it and spread it out in air so it forms a cloud, and it will explode, burning very rapidly, but still liberating about 10,000 btu of heat. The CO2 emissions of any fuel is based on the chemistry of the fuel (its carbon content per pound or kg). Coal is mainly carbon, so it releases a lot of CO2 per pound burned. Surprising though it may seem, 12 pounds of carbon joins with 32 pounds of oxygen to form 44 lb of CO2. (As you can guess, 32 pounds of O2 is a very large volume... and the amount of air containing 32 lb of O2 is an even larger volume, because air is only 20% O2.)

Although a pound of any fuel liberates a certain amount of heat when burned, the efficiency with which that heat is converted to mechanical power or electrical power varies widely. In the most basic sense, if an engine releases a lot of hot exhaust, and conducts a lot of heat to a cooling system, it is inefficient. Some very inefficient heat engines are found in cars -- thus the hot radiator and hot exhaust. Coal power plants are about as efficient as the engine in a Prius, with about 2/3 of the fuel heat going off as waste heat. The most efficient natural gas powered power plants are about 60% efficient. They emit much less CO2 per kilowatt of electricity partly because of this better efficiency, and partly because some of the heat energy comes from burning the hydrogen in natural gas (which has four hydrogen atoms per carbon atom).

Here's some info on burning coal to produce electricity. Wikipedia has some good info on burning various fuels to produce electricity, as does the US DOE at various websites.

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Re: coal compression

02/21/2009 3:24 PM

Diamond is a form of really compressed coal, and this would be a very expensive source of heat, though rewarding if the daimond was your ex's.

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Re: coal compression

08/05/2011 2:56 AM

So, could you able find the answer -which coal will yied more energy -dense or loose ?

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08/05/2011 10:01 AM

Please reread the next to the last paragraph in Blinks post.

The amount of energy available to be released is a function of the chemistry.

The amount of energy caotured from the total available is a function of the combustion process. Now re read the first sentence of that same post, the most efficient way is to pulverise it to increase the surface area available for combustion per unit mass.

Ifyou have a single sphere of compressed coal = 1 pound, the surface area available for burn is at it s maximum to start and can be calculated by area of a sphere. And it will take an enormous amount of time to combust all the way to the core, with diminishing area of reaction the whole time.

If you pulverise that same pound into particles of say 0.010" the area available for reaction approaches infinity and the combustion can happen instantaneously upon injection.

Think about the process of burning, not the idea that somehow compression is magic.

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