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Industrial Radiography

03/02/2009 2:12 AM

Dear Sir,

I am approaching you for your expert technical advice on following problem :

A 60 in diameter 14.75 mm thick carbon steel pipeline externally coated with polyeurythene and internally coated with cement lining approx 1 inch thick is used for transporting potable water at pressure of 40 bars.

At places cement lining is fallen off and getting accumulated thus obstructing smooth flow.

In order to remove this concrete debris the pipeline is cut and cleaned.

To determine location spots of debris collection flow rate meaurements are carried out but sometimes no debris is found.

We tried to ascertain location by using RT at these suspected points. Initial RT using films, we did not get any result as exposure times extended upto 10 hours using Ir-192 of 80 Ci. The films were found to be absolutely blank. We covered 1/4 th of a pipe at a time.

We tried direct measurement of radiation through pipe by placing source at one side and dosimeter at opposite end ( 180 degree opposite ) and measured dose for 3 minutes. Such 20 readings were taken all around pipe. But there was neither uniformity nor co-relationship in reading to come to any conclusion. On cutting the pipeline accumulated cement was found.

Sir, is there any suitable RT technique to confirm or ascertain location of concrete debris where water is flowing ?

In case any other information is required on the subject to evolve new technique, please do let me know, I shall try and provide you.

Best Regards.

Vijay Vesvikar.

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Re: Industrial Radiography

03/02/2009 9:10 AM

If you use source radiograph for only 15mm thickness plate, Im afraid you cannt get any information but a black on film. if double walls work, will 30mm. I guess youi use this method for inspection.

Have you tried UT? A scan can do the trick, I think. you can use either direct probe or angle prob.

the reflect wave has different from whole lining and lack of lining parts. then you can locate the fault spot.

or use x-ray in place of r source. doulb wall radiography, try 260kv 5min expose, may get a relative clear image. although has out focus.

the foolish job is use a crawler with a camera inside the pipe. as it has large diameter up to 1.5M.

if you have a infrared camera, you can also try this method. warm the pipe and then inspect with the thermograph image. my client had used this method for inspecting firebrick lining .

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Re: Industrial Radiography

03/02/2009 12:38 PM

Did you try a stethoscope to listen to the turbulence/ cavitation likely?

This one has an software package for visualizing what you pick up.

STETHOSCOPE

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Re: Industrial Radiography

03/02/2009 11:03 PM

I agree with the other contributors, radiography is not the way to do this - both UT and Thermography can be very effective in locating such areas - well so we have found.

What diameter is the pipe and the run lengths involved?

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Re: Industrial Radiography

03/03/2009 7:26 AM

I'd consider using a video camera on a crawler, as long as the pipe invert is passable. These crawlers can measure how far into the pipe they are, so anything inside can be located. This method is commonly used to inspect storm and regular sewers. You can also check with pipeline rehabilitation companies.

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Re: Industrial Radiography

03/03/2009 4:11 PM

You may want to try a ultrasonic inspection from the inside. Below is a link to a company that puts a ultrasonic recorder into a active water main. We are considering it, but have not used it, so I can't speak to it's actual effectiveness - but it may do what you are after.

www.puretechnologiesltd.com

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