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LIGHT WEIGHT RECEIPE FOR CONCRETE

03/28/2009 2:31 PM

Can anyone advise me of how to make a recipe for light weight concrete or where I can get a receipe or make any suggestions as to how create a light weight contrete? Thanks.

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03/28/2009 3:37 PM

Here are a few links you may wish to explore.

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03/28/2009 3:46 PM

try this:

http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/QandA/lwconcrete/formulas.htm

or you could just google "lightweight cement recipe"

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03/28/2009 5:10 PM

I did that, but really need an actual recipe. Thanks.

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03/28/2009 11:11 PM

Hi DOBT,

Can you say more about your application?

I have mixed and made a light-weight concrete for flooring fill on an uneven wood and joist floor (later to be covered by underlayment). When I followed the links offered by the other posts, the second link offered used the same that I did.

Usually (and I'm no chemist) the key is to replace some or all of the aggregate with a lighter weight material, such as vermiculite or foam beads, but the sacrifice of course is compression strength.

Tell us more about what you're up to and maybe we can help, either with personal experiences or links to other sites.

Kind regards ...

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04/09/2009 12:57 PM

I would like to use this light weight to pour into molds. But the conventional concrete is way to heavy. We have experimented with own mixtures and like you we are not chemists... and it is very hard to get information from anyone in the "lightweight" industry. So we are banging our hands literally against the wall!!! What we make is either to heavy or too watery. We have used Borax, sand, cement , plastisizer and some other aggragetes, but to no avail. We have tried to find the foam beads but the website I had is no longer viable. So any suggestions are very helpful to us. Thanks to all who have responded.

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04/09/2009 8:29 PM

Hi DBOT,

If you are looking for the foam beads, look for a company who makes EPS (Expanded Polystyrene) packaging materials. EPS begins with Polystyrene foam beads. Also, if you remember the old 'bean-bag chairs', that's what they were filled with.

SO, just for experimentation, you might check (1) for an EPS manufacturer, and I'm sure they would chat with you and sell you a bag of the PS foam beads, and (2) if you can find a furniture store (don't laugh, I've done this) that sell the 'bean-bag' furniture, they should also have bags of 'replacement' beads to sell.

Good luck with your experiments and let us know how it goes.

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04/10/2009 8:49 AM

Thanks, will let you know if we actually get a formula that works. Have a great weekend.

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03/28/2009 11:36 PM

You can use lightweight aggregates if they are available. This will give you a few options and a very limited amount of possible densities and resultant strength retention.

The best way I have found in the 37 yrs. I have been involved in actually doing it is to use a pre-formed foam. This way you can know the density and the resultant strength that the final mix will have.

We represent www.casthome.com in N. America but there are several aerated cellular companies. All of them are good.

We can do from 5 pounds per cubic foot (PCF) to full density (150 PCF)

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03/29/2009 1:55 PM

Google "hypertufa".

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Re: LIGHT WEIGHT RECEIPE FOR CONCRETE

03/29/2009 2:05 PM

Check out Elastizell. They can formulate mix designs that result in densities of 20 pcf to 120 pcf.

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03/29/2009 4:27 PM

A material called Haydite has been used for some time to create stronger and lighter blocks. I don't know if your application will merit using this product. Give them a call to find out.

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Re: LIGHT WEIGHT RECEIPE FOR CONCRETE

03/30/2009 6:01 AM

Check out and contact them http://www.stalite.com/

This is what they do

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Re: LIGHT WEIGHT RECEIPE FOR CONCRETE

03/30/2009 8:07 AM

Al powder mixed with sharp sand and added to a mix (about 1% Al) will foam by reacting with the free lime liberated and forming H2 bubbles in the concrete as it is setting. The H2 eventually diffuses out and is replaced by air. This is the basis of expanding grouts.

Another mix is to incorporate detergent in your concrete then foam it with compressed air as it is placed. Most pre-mixed concrete companies can supply you with a suitable mix of this type.

Using pearlite or vermiculite as aggregate also works although you need to have a fairly stiff mix to avoid segregation of the aggregate after placement. For the same reason, you also need to be careful not to overvibrate the mix when placing it.

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03/30/2009 9:50 AM

Glad someone got this info out!

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