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specialty bolt

04/19/2009 8:02 AM

We need to replace a bolt used to bolt the cast iron keel on a 24 foot sailboat. The bolt that was removed is: slotted flat head, S/S probably 316 or better, (had been on the boat over 30 years in salt water, and has no sign of corrosion, even though the nut was ferreous ), Principle dimensions: From the flat on the head to the start of the first thread is 1.0 inches, the overall length is 2 3/4, at the start of the thread to the end of the bolt the diameter of the bolt is .500 inches, the diameter at the start of the taper of the flat head is .550 inches. Since this is a tapered bolt I believe it to be a modified 3 inch "Plow" bolt. The slot was probably cut with hacksaw and the length shorted to allow room in the throat of the lifting eye nut attached. I cannot find any supplier of a bolt of this nature. Does anyone have any better idea?

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04/19/2009 11:26 AM

Have you thought to try and contact the boat manufacturer? Or any boat maker? The repair shop in your marina?

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04/19/2009 12:43 PM

Well, you mentioned that it has a ferrous nut. I understand that you mean that the nut that was used with this bolt is made of carbon or low alloy steel and not from stainless steel. In some way, the nut may have contributed to protect the bolt agains corrosion my friend. This is the kind of thing you'd not do, specially in salt water environment.

Maybe you could look for threaded taper pins instead of bolts... but I'd look for a shoulder screw to do the job as you described. Many sizes, in different lenghts, it may not be exactly the same part, but could do the same job. Add mating self-locking nut and washers from the same material, and there'll be a good solution.

Have you looked at www.mcmaster.com for something like you're needing? I always take a look there if I need something like that...

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04/20/2009 7:54 AM

It is normal practice to use carbon steel nuts with stainless steel bolts. If you use stainless on stainless it will seize up and you would have to use a torch to cut it off, which I don't think you would want to do on a boat.

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04/21/2009 4:02 PM

Unless the threads are prepped with Loctite's special activator for SS or somethng similar.

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04/23/2009 6:26 PM

Stan, you've got to be kidding! In the (leisure) marine environment you would never use a non stainless nut with a stainless bolt. IOn more than 20 years on yachts, large and small, i have only seen this where someone hasnt been able to find the right component!

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04/20/2009 7:48 AM

Why replace the bolt if it is still in perfect condition? If it is a custom or modified bolt, why not take it to a machine shop and ask them to replicate it? Sounds like the worst case would be a length of 300 series stainless steel rod and a couple of hours of machine time. If you can't find a shop to fabricate one, We'll make it for you.

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04/20/2009 10:52 PM

Without knowing the model of sailboat I'm taking the liberty of attaching the link for Catalina Yachts C25

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It may give you a starting point.

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04/21/2009 3:02 PM

I've never been disappointed by Fastenal. If it's worth the expense, they'll even custom manufacture the part.

However, for a one-off, you're probably better off going to a reputable machine shop. They should be able to identify the material of the existing piece and make exactly what you need. I'd ask at the marina, or maybe a custom car shop, where they get machine work done and how satisfied they are with the results.

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04/22/2009 8:25 AM

Thanks for the responses. The bolt was inadvertently destroyed removing the badly corroded ferrous eye nut, which I believe is a terrible practice. I have contacted all the suppliers that I know of, including the ones mentioned. I did find the bolt as a item from a wholesale custom caster, but not in a none-ferrous material. Yes a machinist could turn me one, but here that is would be very expensive.

I am still looking

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04/22/2009 8:37 AM

If you would like us to make you a custom bolt, contact me at hermetric.inc@verizon.net - Where are you located? - We will need either a drawing, a sketch, or the old bolt. Regards, Tom

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