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PCB Vibration Analysis

05/11/2009 5:02 AM

Hello everyone;

I'm posting this in electronics because it is about a PCB. I'm not sure if it should have been on another forum...

I'm supposed to conduct vibration analysis on a PCB board.

* I've got to find its resonance frequencies and compare it to the resonance frequency of the panel it is attached to,

* I need to test it against a load spectrum and see if it breaks apart.

I need advice in general in fact, for this is something I haven't done before, but here's the question that comes to my mind: Should I model the PCB only as the board or along with the tray that holds it? Which one would be a better approach? Does it depend on the shock&vibration isolation means between the board and the tray?

I'd also be grateful if you could point me towards any information about vibration analysis for PCBs... Thanks in advance!

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

05/11/2009 8:03 AM

It sounds like running the analysis is something you are not asking about. Do you already have a software package selected for running the analysis?

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

05/11/2009 9:25 AM

I'm trying to get a grasp of the situation before moving onto the running the analysis part... I don't have much chance to choose a package; it is most likely to be Patran or Workbench.

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

05/11/2009 10:17 AM

As you have pointed out, the direction is not clear. Often figuring out exactly what to test, how to test it and how to write it up so everyone is happy is more work than testing the item.

There is often a lot of conflict between what makes good sense, what you were told to do, and your best guess as to what the people giving you direction actually need. If your contract says "test the board" then you should consider either testing the board or asking them to modify the contract.

If you are working under internal direction and company owned software then it might be easiest to just use a shotgun. Run models of the PCB by itself, the PCB mounted in the tray, the PCB mounted to the panel and any other partial assembly configuration that might make sense. Make your report easy to understand with configuration and result grouped together. This could do at least two good things for you. First, whatever "they" want you probably did. Even if "they" were not clear or "they" changed their mind, you probably did it. Second, never under estimate the ability of a tray or vibration isolator to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. You might have unexpected results from something you trusted. Most isolators don't eliminate vibration, they just look for a chance to move the vibration to a frequency you didn't expect.

One of the people I work for once had rubber vibration isolators catch fire during vibration testing. Yes, catch fire. After burning they didn't work as well as the analysis software predicted.

Also remember, PCBs don't work until they "break apart". This is especially true if you have BGAs.

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

05/12/2009 2:43 AM

Hi,

First you must confirm what kind of pcb you are putting under test? weather it shoud go for two dimensional test or three dimentional test as per its requirements. i.e. where is it used, in a stationary platform or in a moving object?

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

05/12/2009 2:58 AM

Hi Archmagus,

Johan Gouws, that made LinkedIn.com, has profound knowledge in deriving transfer functions from first principles (that contains your resonant frequencies) and analyzing control systems and did significant work involving defense systems. His name, profile and contact details are freely available on the net and, as "mycr4id" personnally knows him, he will gladly direct you in the direction to a sound solution-finding-answer for your question.

From my side: Shock vibration isolation would be necessary between the board and its tray if the resonant frequency of the board and the tray (which is assumed to be ONE with the holding cabinet) are such that the superinposed natural frequencies (of the board and box) could have destructive/damaging effect on the PCB.

A thorough analysis would suggest that you have to determine the natural frequency of the PCB (assumption is that the PCB is not 1/2' x 1/2' with surface mounted micro components) and the cabinet and compare the two. The two frequencies should be multiples of one another to have a neutralizing or controlable resultant.

Next is the source of vibration outside the cabinet. That range of frequencies is the determining factor for scaling your board and cabinet combination to the optimum size to have the smallest resultant effect. Well, if you forgot Laplace and Fourier transforms and related mathematics, it is suggested that you seriously dig into this again if the reliability of your PCB is imperrative for the sustenance of life.

I hope this is helpful.

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

05/12/2009 11:59 AM

First of all, thank you all for the wonderful advice, I could use every single letter of it. mycr4id, I'll definitely try to contact Johan Gouws, thanks for pointing me towards him. As to clarify the problem; I'll state it again with more information I received lately...

--> The Situation

There is a PCB board, square in shape (about 330mmx330mm in size), which will be inside a tray, which in turn will be mounted on a vertical panel. The system will be in motion, so vibrations are expected and feared of. The resonance frequencies of the panel are known. The PCB is mounted in its tray via screws from 20 or so points with no isolation; and the walls of the tray directly encircle the PCB. There is a cross-shaped support under the PCB padded by soft material (which I don't know what).

We are more concerned on the Z axis of the board, the direction normal to the board. The other directions are very stiff, and are considered to be out of scope. The modeling can be a simple one; they told me I could model only the board itself and place relatively heavy components (20gr, 50gr and such) on it as point masses.

--> The Goal

* Find coarsely the resonance frequencies of the board and see if they are close to the resonance frequencies of the panel it is mounted on.

* Find the loads the PCB experiences for a given excitation spectrum, and see if it breaks or anything.

--> The constraint

I'm not the design guy for the PCB. I have the drawings and the design, and I have to analyse it. So even if I can have a better idea for the PCB, the only thing I can do is suggest (and I don't think it will be accepted, the design might have been frozen.)

I am actually going to be responsible of the testing operations for it, but I was recently given the task to analyse it too (to make me gain some analysing skills, I suspect. So the better for me :) ) So I don't have much analysing knowledge, but I have a basic grasp on theory and FEM/FEA.

I have access to MSC Patran/Nastran, for that's what the company has. Workbench might be a very far-streched another option.

Thanks again in advance, for any comment you might have.

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

11/12/2009 12:45 PM

Have a look at these:

1. R.A. Amy, G.S. Aglietti, G Richardson, " Simplified Modelling Of Printed Circuit Boards For Spacecraft Applications" Acta Astronautica Volume 65, Issues 1-2, July-August 2009, Pages 192-201 doi:10.1016/j.actaastro.2009.01.037 R.

1. R.A. Amy, G.S. Aglietti, G Richardson, "Sensitivity Analysis of Simplified Printed Circuit Board Finite Element Models" Microelectronics Reliability, Vol 49, (2009) pp 791–799 MR-D-08-00009R3, DOI 10.1016/j.microrel.2009.04.002

G.S.Aglietti, "A Lighter Enclosure for Electronics for Space Applications", Journal of Aerospace Engineering, part G Vol 216-3, pp 131-142, 2002.

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Re: PCB Vibration Analysis

11/13/2009 2:54 AM

EXCELLENT AS ALWAYS, clear, to the point, and if not followed up, one could fail....

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