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Fusing for SPD

06/17/2009 2:53 AM

Dear Gurus,

I'm installing a surge arrester at my plant DB. I'm choosing a type II based on IEC standard. I have a question here to be enlighten:

1. Do I need to install fuse in series with SPD? since some say yes and some supplier says just in install SPD without fuse. Very confuse.

2. how do I determine the fuse rating? I plan to install SPD 8/20 microsec Imax 40KA

3. what is the difference of flashtrap type and valvetrap type

hope to hear from the expert

thanking in advance

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Re: Fusing for SPD

06/17/2009 1:54 PM

Why would you fuse, i.e., install a disconnect switch, for the device that is supposed to protect your system from surges, spikes, etc.?

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Re: Fusing for SPD

06/18/2009 9:51 AM

Thank you Jack for your reply and ideally what you laid out would be correct. But we don't live in an ideal world especially with SPDs. Adding a disconnect switch will degrade the performance of the SPD, so unless necessary for other reasons, I do not recommend using a disconnect switch just for the SPD.

The trick is to protect your gear from the surges and spikes but also to protect your gear when the SPD gives up the ghost. SPD's often fail violently, although the newest UL 3rd edition is making it better, the SPD failures can damage the very gear you are trying to protect.

Therefore, there is a delicate balance between fusing and not fusing. SPD manufacturers should have fusing requirements in their installation instructions. These should be followed. For example, Dehn SPD products typically allow a fuseless installation up to a 125 A service (at or below 50k SCCR). However, beyond the 125 A 50kA SCCR, they require an additional fuse. The reason for the possible fuseless installation is that the SPD has its own internal fusing mechanism that is rated up to 125A, 50k SCCR.

Thanks for listening, I hope this helps.

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Re: Fusing for SPD

06/18/2009 3:19 AM

In poorly designed or cheap surge diverters (SPD) can overheat due to excess stress, aging which lowers the clamping voltage or temporary overvoltage situation. In this situation the SPD can overheat and pose a fire hazard. Although in few SPDs the thermal fuse is built in to protect against overheat.

Therefore I do recommend installing a fuse in series with the SPD to protect the surge diverter from overheat and catching fire. The fuse should be installed close to the SPD.

Also SPD which usually uses MOVs which do deteriorate over time with surges therefore will need replacement. If you are not using the plug-in replacement type, than you have to isolate the DB to change the SPD. However if you have a fuse then you can safely isolate the SPD and then replace the MOVs.

The size of the fuse depends on the Service protection device rating. Also the let though energy rating of the fuse should be higher than SPD.

It is also a good engineering practise that if you are wiring Phase and neutral to the devise is to protect the cables with a protective device in case you short the other end.

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06/18/2009 9:35 AM

There are good reasons to install a fuse in series with an SPD. For one, to protect the wiring to and from the SPD from fire upon a short circuit of the SPD. Another is to prevent catastrophic electrical equipment failure (carbon deposits into gear) from an SPD failure.

Depending on the product, manufacturer, the installation site, you might not need to use a fuse. However, there are items you need to check.

What is the Short Circuit current rating of the SPD and what is the available short circuit current of the electrical supply that the SPD is going to be installed into?

The SPD rating should be equal to or greater than the supply. If not a supplemental fuse is necessary.

Second what is the supply side maximum current rating? You should then check the installation instructions for the SPD products you are using as if they are UL listed or recognized devices, they will have information on the fusing requirements.

I can tell you that most fuses when installed in series with an SPD will lessesn its Imax of 40kA. In other words, the fuse will open before the Imax is reached. However, there are surge rated fuses available such as the VSP fuses from Ferraz. You can google the VSP fuses and get the information. A VSP-40 fuse is rated to pass 40kA, 8x20 without opening, it is also rated as a 200kAIC fuse.

I hope this helps.

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