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High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/07/2009 11:24 PM

In 425HP, 6Pole motor Winding 126 Deg C and bearing temperature 95 Deg C of this motor is crossing the limit. w Present load is R- 540 A, Y- 547 A and B- 532 A at a voltage of 418 V , 418V and 420 V . Bearing Size 6322C3 at drive end and 6319C3 at non drive, Starting method is star delta, Application is compressor,

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Re: cause for high bearings temperature in motors

07/08/2009 12:51 AM

1. Check, Motor cooling fan (installed on NDE side of Motor).

2. Excessive grease in bearing.

3. What about the compressor side bearing Temperature ?? Is that high also !! If yes, Please check Alignment 1st.

4. Did you notice any sound coming out from Motor / bearings ??

5. Isolate the compressor and Rotate Motor 1) By hand and try to check it rotate freely or not ?? 2) Rotate Motor (No load run test), and check Temp. rise of bearings.

If Temp. rise again up to previous figures, There is problem in Motor, required balancing of Rotor.

Please update me ....

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/08/2009 11:16 PM

Was the unit running normally (for how long ?) and this just happened ?

Is this a new start-up ?

New Install, first time run ?

Was there a speed pick-up or other device bolted to an insulated bearing housing ? causing a ground loop ?

What type of temperature sensor ? Is the sensor correct for the readout module ? Is the module calibrated correctly ?

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/08/2009 11:43 PM

The motor is newly installed.. one month..

no speed pick up are ued.. for temperature sensor RTD ar used..

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/08/2009 11:50 PM

Was the RTD -

replaced ?

sensor calibrated ?

wiring shorted somewhere ?

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 12:29 AM

You can feel temperature just by putting your hand on Motor.

This is a Low voltage Motor with Anti-friction bearing.

My experience - If you can hold your hand on Bearing housing atleast for 60 seconds, Bearing temperature shall be less than 60 oC.

If you cann't sure It will be highjer than 60 oC.

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 8:06 AM

The elevated temp has been since start-up or did this just start, if so what else may have changed, i.e. lubrication as mentioned,...

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/08/2009 11:51 PM

In addition to my last mail,

I request you to check the following :-

1. During Alignment activities, Also, Check the soft foot.

2. Avoid nos. of Thin shims. Nos. of shims must be limited to 3-5 Max. As, More nos. of thins shims cause soft foot.

Due to soft foot, Rotor magnetic center will change and will creates Vibration/Higher bearing temp.

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 2:33 AM

Hi Jagdeesha,

Which make is the motor?. Is it reputed BBL,Crompton, Kirloskar make?. What is rated current at full load?. What is ambient temp.?. Is it properly aligned with compressor?.

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 2:39 AM

ABB Make motor.. full load current 550, ambient 50deg. It is properly aligned with compressor

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 3:01 AM

Hi Jagdeesha,

Normally these motors are designed for 40 deg C ambient any how that can not be the reason for it getting it hot. ABB is reputed make. There seems no apprent reason for it to get very hot. May be bearings are giving problem. I suggest please call their Service Engineer to check up the motor as it is still under guarantee period.

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 5:05 AM

If these bearings are found in such place that penetrate through it the tench of field strengths of electromagnetic, then in these bearings are induced eddy currents and always they will warm these bearings.

Only reasonable solution it was that putting before the bearing of the screen, made from soft magnetically sheet metals.

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 6:36 AM

have your vibration tech check it out, also have a electrician check to see if there is voltage on the armature, the vibration tech could check this if he is set up for a flux reading, you could try grounding the armature, check with the manufacturer. also are you lubricating with a compatable grease? polyurea in some motors not compatable with lithium type? LOL :)

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 8:32 AM

Hi Jagadeesha; I browsed this tech. catalog from ABB motors and I saw a whole lot of information regarding your question, give it a read.

http://www.clrwtr.com/PDF/ABB-Motors/ABB-NEMA-Motors.pdf

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 10:04 AM

Have you checked belt tension?

If the tension is too high the bearings can be overloaded.

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Re: High Bearing Temperatures in Motors

07/09/2009 4:51 PM

At 95 Deg C the bearing will not last much longer, typically once you get to 120 C, the bearing will self destruct. Depending on your operating duty cycle if operated 24 x 7, you may only see another7 to 10 days of bearing life.

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