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Control Power Supply of E3 (or E3 Plus) Relay

07/28/2009 8:57 PM

Can anybody explain how the E3 (or E3 Plus) relay gets control power? Is it from the DeviceNet terminal 1 (V-) and 5 (V+)? If it is, then what happened when DeviceNet is not connected to the relay? I am looking into the schematic and wiring diagram of a motor starter and don't see any control power connected to the E3 Plus relay. I looked into the Rockwell Automation's E3 and E3 Plus User Manual (http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/193-um002_-en-p.pdf) and didn't find any information for control supply (refer to page 2-17 and 2-18 for Terminal Designation).

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Re: Control Power Supply of E3 (or E3 Plus) Relay

07/29/2009 9:26 AM

Yes, the E3 and E3+ get their control power from the DevieNet terminal, and yes, when the DeviceNet goes down, the device ceases to be an OL relay. It's a commonly known flaw to the DeviceNet scheme when it comes to OL relays. Many loyal A-B users have been shocked when they discover this, which is usually right after they lose a motor when the network goes down,

There are a couple of work-arounds;

1. Install LOTS of power supplies in the DeviceNet circuit. This does not guaratee continuous operation, but it lowers the chances of a sytem wide loss.

2. Install a separate power supply capable of powering just the E3's in your system and wire it to every motor starter through selector switches so that if the network crashes and you must continue to run, someone can flip the switch into "LOCAL" mode to power the E3s. You must also deal with the change in control command structure if the E3s were doing direct network control.

By the way, this is a MAJOR diference between DeviceNet and Profibus. Profibus does NOT power the devices. So if a Profibus network crashes, the devices still function normally. Most Profibus OL relays I have seen have the ability to monitor the network and if it doesn't see it, automatically switch to a "Local" control mode, i.e. if the network had been in control, it then puts local pilot devices in control (assuming they are installed of course).

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Re: Control Power Supply of E3 (or E3 Plus) Relay

07/29/2009 8:41 PM

Thanks JRaef. Your answer is exactly what I thought and made me feel more confident working with this relay.

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