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Main Breaker Computation Needed

12/11/2006 5:19 PM

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Sir/Madam:

Can u explain to me please how compute the main breaker? Is there any rule of thumb?

I am just a beginner and Im still learning in the design stage. Please help me..

Thanks a lot.

c3p1124

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#1

Re: main breaker

12/11/2006 11:40 PM

Depends on what is in the circuit that is downstream. Any Motors? Are all of the circuits and devices individually protected? Transformers?

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#2
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Re: main breaker

12/12/2006 6:07 PM

yes sir the devices are individually protected. In a certain panel, we have motors in it and on the other panels are molding machines (35KVA), press machines etc..

Example:

ckt 1 to ckt 8 are molding machines with 35 KVA at 3P and 200V. the demand factor is 70% . what should be the main breaker to be use?

Thank you for the reply...

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Re: main breaker

12/12/2006 8:43 PM

In the case that each individual branch coming off the main disconnect is protected, I fuse (CB in your case) for the size of the disconnect. Otherwise I'd have to examine the entire system to see what kind of in-rush current I can expect. Unfortunately, its not as easy as a simple percentage.

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Re: main breaker

12/13/2006 5:09 PM

thank u sir fro the response.. can u give e a sample for the computationof a certain panel board with 8 circuits containing molding machines with 35KVA,3P,200V with demand factor of 70%?

What should be the main breaker for the panel?

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#5

Re: Main Breaker Computation Needed

12/13/2006 5:35 PM

As you seem to be working with an existing system, I would suggest
that you size the Main C.B. to protect the existing circuit.

(Thats the smallest unprotected element of same.)

You appear to have enough diversity to make inrush currents
a negligable factor unless there is one very large load or
a simultaneous start-up situation.

If your load is primarily motors, consider a time delay (K-5 or so) fuse
instead of a breaker. The interrupting current/price of unit is better
and a properly sized main shouldn't open unless you've goofed somewhere.

To properly calculate the size of a new service....

If you have to ask, you shouldn't be doing it but:

Take all your connected loads.
Apply a demand factor to each.
- (Judgement required. Note: Demand Load is NOT Service Factor)
Total the demand loads.
Add 125% of the largest starting current.
Add some room for expansion.
Total.

For interrupting rating required consult your utility for
avalable short circuit current. - Take the next largest
sized breaker rating, (unless its close, you do have motors).
If it's too close for comfort go up a notch.

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Re: Main Breaker Computation Needed

12/13/2006 11:20 PM

This is c3p1124...

thank u sir i really appreciate ur reponse. That would help me..

God Bless..

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