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Oddball Vacuum Tube?

08/28/2009 6:47 PM

I remember a article years ago about making your own vacuum tube, and it was a odd tube--instead of being based off the Edison lamp, this was based off the design of the glass cartridge fuse, with contact rings at both ends.

Now--someone help me with the name of the tube, all I can remember is that was designed by a Canadian.

Thanks, Locksmith Al

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Re: Oddball Vacuum Tube?

08/29/2009 7:36 AM

Why not a fluorescent lamp. It has 4 glass/metal seals. Just cut it open, clean out all the powder and reuse the coil clamps.

It helps if you have a glass lathe, but it can be done without one.

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08/29/2009 10:48 PM

NotUrOrdinaryJoe:

Sorry, the glass of a fluorescent tube is much too thin for a vacuum tube (valve for the folks across the pond). Tube glass is about three or four times as thick at a minimum, some are even thicker. No a bad suggestion though.

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08/30/2009 12:46 AM

L Al,

What was it used for?

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08/30/2009 6:48 PM

It was made as a diode for AM radio reception, but the article also mentioned that it could be made as a triode.

The article was in a issue of Radio-Electronice from back in the 70's, bloke made his own vacuum tube for a laugh, I thought the tube was a Evers or Evens tube, but when you get to be a old fart of 51, ya start to forget things!

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08/31/2009 3:22 PM

Got about 3 yrs "head-start" on you ... (fergettin' things).

Haven't seen in any posts as yet a link to this video...<link

Not allowed to "stream it" here at work for a preview, but looks like it might provide you some insight. [I haven't seen a response to *what* you wish to do with said item...(?) I, too, am curious]

Had an uncle who, for as long as I knew him ('bout 40 years) was a ham-bug. As for myself, I never could get comfortable with Morse-coding.... Regards~~~

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09/01/2009 6:12 AM

I've seen that video before & the comment on the web site is correct, once you start watching you won't stop. A true craftsman at work.

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09/01/2009 8:17 AM

It's not as much doing anything with the tubes, as much as decribing them to a friend here.

Odd you should mention the Morse code requirement--that was dropped a few years ago.

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09/01/2009 8:52 AM

'O-T response here'... re, the Morse Code comment... "Yeah", I recall hearing about it being dropped ~ but, Uncle Bob passed away about 8 years ago... From the time I was just a 'wee-tyke', he impressed me with his knowledge of the technology, AND the fact that so many people so far away recognized his call and would respond to him... and, on top of that, if he tuned-in somebody sending something in code, he could interpret it on-the-fly (at what *I* considered breakneck speed). While watching "Independence Day" (when it first came out), I recall having had the fleeting thought that the writers made a good point : that retaining the *knowledge* of the Code just *might* be a VERY good thing... Don't know whether OTHERS might share the thought that retention of that knowledge is probably best served by "mandate". Who's gonna bother mastering it if they don't HAVE to...?

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08/30/2009 1:15 AM

This tube was the first ac operated indirect heated thoriated cathode invented by Ted Rogers.

Prior to this, you had direct emission and ac heating made audio hum.

More where this came from:

https://www.ieee.ca/millennium/alternating_current/ac_recollections.html

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Re: Oddball Vacuum Tube?

08/30/2009 6:46 AM

FIY many vacuum tubes, especially those that operate at high voltage, have contacts at both ends of the tube. Some examples include rectifiers, thyratrons, and ignitrons.

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08/30/2009 1:26 PM

L Al,

Something like this?

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09/01/2009 1:01 PM

Lock Al,

Now--someone help me with the name of the tube, all I can remember is that was designed by a Canadian.

Name of the the tube?

Did anyone mention rectifier? The articles mention replacing batteries with it to get dc.

The skinny tubes were called pencil tubes.

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09/02/2009 11:20 AM

If you want thick walled glass, use a compact fluorescent lamp tube.

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09/03/2009 7:47 PM

You might be thinking of something based on the old RC triode made in Montreal by EB Myers around 1920. It looked something like a cartridge fuse with a red cap on one end and a black one on the other. Myers worked for de Forest off and on and sort of borrowed the design. de Forest got an injunction to make him stop making the tubes, so the old Myers tube had a prominent "Made in Canada" stamp in hopes of preventing more lawsuits. I don't know if that worked - I think Myers went bankrupt.

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09/03/2009 11:54 PM

Yep--THAT'S the tube I was thinking of!

Thanks!

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09/04/2009 8:20 AM

If you want, I should be able to get you a picture next week.

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09/04/2009 2:47 AM

Has anyone here ever heard of a thyratron?

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09/04/2009 7:54 AM

Post 5 beat ya to it .... or , were you needing some "Google" links to information about them...?

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09/04/2009 8:09 AM

E2V make them

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09/05/2009 10:17 PM

So does Perkin Elmer. - 35,000 Volts, 1,000 Amps, switched in about 2 nsec.

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