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Surveyor's Compass

09/07/2009 9:53 PM

Hello everyone, i'm a civil eng'g stud. Just wanna ask why is it that the East and West directions are interchanged in a surveyor's compass?

I need a clear explanation. Thanks a lot.

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Re: A QUESTION ABOUT SURVEYOR'S COMPASS

09/07/2009 10:03 PM

It's possible that your looking at things the wrong way, literally! Perhaps you have it upside down (unlikely) or perhaps it's for positioning a ceiling, or roof, perhaps it's so that you can look up to the compass rather than down, perhaps someone has given you a joke compass. I don't know! However it seems likely that if they are truly inverted, that the device is to be viewed overhead rather than below eye level.

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09/08/2009 9:23 AM

This reeks of homework.

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09/08/2009 10:35 PM

After a little reflection, the answer came to me...

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09/08/2009 10:56 PM
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09/08/2009 11:13 PM

The compass you are asking the question about has a mirror that you read the compass with as you look through the sights,thus the image is reversed. If you try to read the compass directly the East and West appear to be bassackwards.

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09/08/2009 11:30 PM

My father-in-law told me what that mirror on the compass was for. He said to hold it about 2 feet in front of you and it would show you who's lost.

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01/31/2010 4:29 PM

It's not because of the mirror. The compass on a 4 post surveyor's transit reads the same (no mirror). The reason is simple. The needle always points to magnetic north. Stand behind the compass facing north. Turn to your right to face east. The needle is pointing to east on the face of the compass. Turn to your left to face west. Now the needle tells you that you are facing west. For some reason toy and amateur compasses label the cardinal directions of a map. They do not indicate the true direction you are facing.

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09/09/2009 1:57 AM

Guest (Hunter), I thought this was a riddle...

a picture is always worth 1K words.

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09/09/2009 2:00 AM

Do you mean the Circumferenter, an old surveying instrument ?

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09/09/2009 5:22 AM

I see what you mean:-

and, I had no idea.

This site has a good explanation.

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09/09/2009 6:15 AM

a big GA, with which I eat my own words.

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09/09/2009 6:34 AM

Randall,

an excellent explanation and description.

I have an old Brunton style compass, made by a company called NAUTICALIA.

This one has adjustnments for both variation and declination but is difficult to use and may require cleaning of the mirror and glass - all of these compases require a stand to get any accuracy out of them.

The site description lets us down in one tiny area, the labelling of its parts is a terrible colour for my ancient eyes!

Is there any access to read further, I can try and borrow the books from our libraries but I am looking to copy material for my own use.

Thanks very much

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09/09/2009 7:01 AM

Hi Sleepy,

This could be what you are after http://www.brunton.com/manuals/current/Compasses/Transit.pdf

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09/09/2009 8:53 AM

Hi AusieBob,

Thanks for that, I have an very abbreviated version of that so that was great contribution to my pesonal files.

My next priority is to look for a tripod or tripod adaptor!

Thanks again for that input, it was very useful.

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09/09/2009 8:44 AM

This is not the only compass that is confusing.Back in the 1890's during the gold rush to Alaska, there was a watch company that made excellent railroad watches.They decided that they could cash in on the current frenzy of travelers if they also sold a compass.As a matter of economy, and to gain a marketing edge,they decided to put the compass on the back side of the watch, thereby having two instruments in one.The TATE WATCH COMPANY sold thousands of these watches,however, they did not fully understand the principle of the compass.The clock hands interacted with the compass heading, and according to the time of day when you looked at it, you would get a different bearing.

We all owe a great debt to this company, because previously unsettled parts of the US were settled because people simply got tired of wandering.Women got pregnant,had to stop for childbirth,etc.Then it became too difficult to travel any furher, sot they simply settled down where they were.Only a small percentage ever made it ot Alaska.And is is still sparsely populated even today.

And to this very day, a saying from that era is still familiar:"He who has a TATE'S is lost"

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09/09/2009 12:51 PM

aaaarrrgh...

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09/10/2009 4:44 PM

That bad,eh? It gets even worse:

Well, here's another one:

When the Titanic sank,it was headlines all over the world.Another ship sank around the same time, bound for Mexico, but little was newsworthy.It contained 1000 Metric Tons of Mayonaise.The Mexican people were very distraught by this loss, but they are basically a happy spirited people, and over the years the grief turned into celebration.Today they celebrate that infamous event every year.It is called : Sinko De Mayo"

Exit,stage left....

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