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One Computer, Two Sets of Peripherals (Part 2)

09/08/2009 4:59 PM

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Hello,

I am somewhat computer ease but how to configure? I have one computer and I want to use two sets of keyboard/mouse and monitors for simultaneous access.

How to set up?

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GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX, Core i7-950 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad, GeForce GTX 285 1GB Black edition 512-bit DDR3 PCI express 2.0x16 HDCP ready SLI, one Seagate 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0GB/s 3.5 internal hard drive, ^GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) RAM, SeaSonic 700W SLI/CrossFire ready 80 plus modular-power supply, Wireless mice and keyboard 2-each, Blu-Ray / HD DVD-ROM SATA, MS Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Thank you!

Comments received from part 1 revealed the scenario couldn't be sustained.

If Virtual Machine and or Virtual PC is used how is the dynamic changed?

Thank you.

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Periferals part 2

09/08/2009 5:31 PM

Virtual who with what for two of each??

Is this a server?

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Peripherals part 2

09/08/2009 6:27 PM

My home laptop has 3 mice connected, and 2 keyboards... The touch-pad, one USB laser mouse, and one USB wireless laser mouse (yep.. its pure laziness.. I watch my movies/TV Via the comp/flatscreen... so I enjoy a mouse on the couch)

I also have the "stock" (laptop) keyboard, and a wireless USB keyboard. All of these devices work silmotaniously... which is actually quite fun to mess with someone with the wireless devices (as long as they don't know you have em) by moving their cursor around whatever it is they want to click on.

So I guess my response to your question is... well I'm not sure actually, cause all I did was plug in all the devices.. the computer did its thing (XP), and they all work fine...

Whats your problem again?

Oh and for dual monitors.. thats a function windows should be able to take care of as long as your video card supports it. I have two screen which show two different things. One screen is the "stock" laptop screen, while the other is the large HD flat/wide-screen hanging on the wall. I'll usually have some video of some kind (Daily show for example) playing on the big one, while the "surfing" is done on the laptop screen to find the next show.

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Peripherals part 2

09/09/2009 1:14 AM

Thank you for replying swiftly.

My main interest is being able to use two sets of peripherals independently, ie having one mouse/monitor set being used in MS Word and the other set employed in Auto-CAD on one computer simultaneously.

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Periferals part 2

09/09/2009 8:33 AM

An option would be to look into reverse KVM switches (Keyboard Video Monitor).

A sample of one is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817107305

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Periferals part 2

09/09/2009 1:00 PM

This capability is available within Windows XP and later versions.

Let's say you were bumping both mice at the same time, how would that work? If you were working and your neighbor were working independently, would this function or would the quad core computer choke?

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Peripherals part 2

09/09/2009 12:24 PM

Sounds to me that you should either just set the computer up with two screens.. one for each program, and use one set of human interface devices.. Thats what I do at work... One screen with Solidworks/AutoCAD, and the other surfing the net/word/excel etc. I switch back and forth, but use one mouse/keyboard.

Is this for gaming? sounds like its for gaming to me.

The other easy solution is to just get two computers...

I guess what I can't understand, Is why you would want to do what you want to do, when there are many really easy inexpensive, and most likely more stable ways of doing this. I'm confused.

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09/09/2009 12:52 PM

It's not for gaming, it's for an office, Ted wants to view markets and weather and Martha needs to use Excel and Quicken to accomplish their work.

Why is it possible to have one program in use on a single core computer and not possible to have two programs in use simultaneously on a quad core computer?

I guess what I can't understand, Is why you would want to do what you want to do, when there are many really easy inexpensive, and most likely more stable ways of doing this. I'm confused.

Such as?

If you contract with a satellite TV provider you can get a DVR and have capability to of two or more TVs running different programs all at the same time. Why don't you need to have a DVR for each TV? Why do we need a separate computer for each workstation?

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09/09/2009 1:02 PM

Ah, if you're talking multiple people with simultaneous use, you're talking about needing a server operating system that allows simultaneous access. That's more than just simply hooking up multiple periphials to a Windows computer.

There are server with remote terminal solutions. I've used such at work. But recommending hardware / software is beyond my knowledge base. At one place, a Windows 2003 server was remotely accessed by multiple people at the same time via other PCs and Unix boxes using a Windows Terminal emulator.

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Peripherals part 2

09/09/2009 1:20 PM

Q: Why is it possible to have one program in use on a single core computer and not possible to have two programs in use simultaneously on a quad core computer?

A: It is entirely possible... I run 10+ Programs on one machine using multiple monitors to display each program. For example, right now I have Solidworks, AutoCAD, In-Design, Communicator, Outlook, excel, and IE running at the same time. On my left screen I have this IE window, on the right screen I have Solidworks, I run them both at the same time. I do the same at home on a daily basis...

Q: "Why do we need a separate computer for each workstation?"

A: You don't, you can set up a server with dummy terminals if you wish... But your simplest, most cost effective, safest, most stable way, is to have separate computers at workstations with each having an automatic backup external drive. When Martha's computer freezes up in excel or quicken, do you want Ted's drawings to freeze up with them, and be lost? I guess I live in a data sensitive world, where data safety is #1.

What is wanted is to have two pointing devices on one computer... silmotainiusly... which is just silly if you ask me.

I'd stick to the KISS principle on this one.

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09/09/2009 1:39 PM

What is wanted is to have two pointing devices on one computer... silmotainiusly... which is just silly if you ask me.

The term PC - personal computer signifies a oneness eh?

Ya we do immediately after you click save the new is added to backup entity...

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Re: One Computer, Two Sets of Periferals part 2

09/09/2009 12:29 PM

My, how times have changed! Many years ago, I had a setup where I was using a single set of peripherals to run two computers- a KVM switch mostly. The two computers ran different operating systems (one HP-UX and one Windows- I don't remember which vintage). The issue back then was that the computers were so slow- by switching between computers, I was able to multitask more efficiently (the HP-UX system was actually capable of running multiple threads, and the old Motorola 68004 processor was a whole lot faster than anything Intel was putting out, but even the HP-UX would slow down too much if I ran too many computationally intense threads at one time). Now I see that my Celeron processor spends most of its time idle, and I can mutitask on a single computer...I can still only concentrate on one screen at a time, though, and having multiple input devices would tend to confuse me...I wonder if I could set up a situation where the wife could be surfing the net while I was working on an FEA project? Actually, we both use the same ethernet switch with two computers for surfing the net at the same time, with no problems, but with only one computer? Computers are too cheap to warrant investing the time in developing such a capability...

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09/09/2009 12:35 PM

All great things having been accomplished we can stop thinking??

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