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More on Climate Change

10/05/2009 7:42 PM

A direct quote from American Scientist Science in the News Weekly (Monday, October 5, 2009):"Anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions may have been underway, however, long before the industrial revolution. The Washington Post looked at one scientist's argument that ancient farmers released enough greenhouse gas to alter the climate by burning forests and cultivating rice paddies. But many climate scientists contest the idea, both on scientific grounds and out of concern that it may slow action to curb modern greenhouse gases."

The original argument presented by the cited scientist was based on an analysis of CO2 levels in the atmosphere over the past 10,000 years or so, with clear indications of rising concentrations that correlated well with the spread of agriculture, along with indicators (such as the period of the Black Death) when concentrations decreased as a result of decreased agricultural activities. Having seen the original study several years ago, and having the impression of well-done science, I have wondered for some time why this theory has received so little notice in the climate community. The cited article says the primary "scientific" argument against the theory is that the world population was too small to induce such an effect- without offering any sort of counter-argument to explain the effects measured.

Now we know why the theory has been "discredited"- it is inconsistent with current policy, and may raise questions about the efficacy of the boondoggles currently being promoted to solve the problem...

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Re: More on Climate Change

10/05/2009 8:42 PM

The American Indians regularly set fire to the prairies and forest undergrowth as part of their maintenance of the environment. The earliest explorers on the east coast were surprised that they could walk through the Atlantic forests unhampered by scrub brush. By the late 1600's, the Indians had died off and the forests became a tangle.

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10/06/2009 7:03 AM

There is nothing new about finding that indigenous peoples used slash-and-burn agriculture. An early English settlement west of the Alleghenies - the Massanutten Plain - was on land that had been so cleared by American Indians perhaps hundreds of years earlier.

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I've been a member of Sigma Xi for a third of a century, and to suggest that the organization in any way supports this counter-claim to climate change is disingenuous. They report news same as any legitimate agency. (The WSJ may report on Hugo Chavez, but they hardly support his policies.) Here, we have one man repeatedly scoffing at climate change. On the other side, we have hundreds of reputable scientists and engineers supporting the idea. Sigma Xi, by the way, is hardly leftist or wild-eyed; it is quite pragmatic about possible solutions. Granted, many members have a vested interest in getting funding for further research.

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Re: More on Climate Change

10/06/2009 9:20 AM

My interpretation of the gentleman's position is not that he is scoffing at climate change, but that there are other contributors to the issue, such as land use modification. The fact that climate change has been a fact for much longer than the pundits would have us believe is not scoffing...

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