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Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/17/2009 3:46 PM

Are these machines a scam and has anyone used them and had any positive results??

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/19/2009 8:34 AM

Around here they use little fish to eat away dead skin. The health departments are looking to ban them. Seems soap and water should be enough for healthy skin.

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/25/2009 2:19 AM

Ion cleanse foot baths do not detoxify your body. The change of the water color to a red-maroon color is from the electrolysis of iron oxide, i.e. rust. So great for removing rust from metal, like in the electrodes of the ionic cleanser, but doesn't do squat for the foot or body.

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/27/2009 12:33 AM

I ran it with baking soda andi tried epson salt with distilled water and the water stays clear except the water smells like body odor,the machine still works because i see the go green lights on the machine kick in and i see the array in the water bubbling.

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0256-307X/25/4/087

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/27/2009 1:02 AM

http://www.ionicfootdetox.com/E03_IonCleanse_Study_ACAM.pdf

A report on the Ion Foot Bath....any thoughts?

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/27/2009 3:11 AM

Your article from the investigators in Mexico was interesting. The conclusions, however, has a much simpler explanation.. The foot cleanser water contains all the substances produced by our sweat glands. Any good soldier will tell you , your "dogs" (feet) sweat some of the most awful smelling stuff, because urea is not only in urine but also in sweat. Here's an article from the University of Minnesota, that will explain the products in the foot bath water.

http://www.jbc.org/content/149/2/479.full.pdf

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/27/2009 7:32 PM

Abstract

Negative ions are considered to have potential health benefits, but few studies have examined their effects in vivo. We studied water-generated negative ions (WNI) with respect to physical properties as well as immunologic activation and anti-tumor activity (inhibition of carcinogenesis and tumor growth) in mice. Electrically, generated negative ions (ENI) served as control. Water-generated negative ions had a long life, significantly enhanced the cytotoxic activity of natural killer cells, and significantly decreased the incidence of cancer and inhibited tumor growth. Anti-tumor effects were attributed to enhancement of natural killer cell activity. The mechanisms and applications of negative ions warrant further investigation

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/can/article/PIIS0304383505007408/abstract

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/29/2009 11:47 PM

I'm wondering if the negative ions effect was more of an EM effect with the magnetic field really contributing more positive effects then the ions. THis has been proven in tissue healing.

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

10/27/2009 7:35 PM

Direct and indirect detoxification

While I believe in the correctness of these statements and I think this technology is really wonderful, there are some claims that don't seem to be well founded.
For example, ionic foot baths are often wrongly marketed as the ultimate solution for cleansing the body from heavy metals and all kinds of pollutants. It is also claimed that the regular use of ionic detox foot baths will allow the body to maintain a more healthy, alkaline state.
On the other hand, as hazy as it may sound, the claim that ionic foot baths work by stimulating the bioenergetic field is probably the single most accurate statement of what these machines really do. The rest of the benefits are, in a way or other, indirect consequences of this one. And this is probably also one of the reasons why the ionic foot bath therapy has been criticized as unscientific.
The majority of people who use ion cleanse foot bath to detoxify don't even know about these premises. Direct detoxification is really just a marketing gimmick. Your body cannot be fully detoxified through the pores of your feet. All detoxification benefits will come naturally and indirectly as a result of the improved functioning of the detoxifying organs.
Direct detoxification through the skin (by electrodialysis) may occur in some degree, but not to such extent as currently marketed. Studies have failed to show the presence of other materials in the water than iron oxide from the corroding electrodes.
Ion foot bath therapy improves the function of all vital organs, including the kidneys, liver, colon, skin and lung which are responsible for natural detoxification. Detoxification is a result of enhanced microcirculation and improved lymphatic flow, not electrodialysis.

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

12/23/2010 6:43 PM

I've read a lot on both sides of this subject and while I agree there is no hard & fast science behind it, my experience has been quite positive. The one hing you don't address, and that I rarely see addressed in dispute of it's benefits, is the reverse osmosis tha occurs and, it is this according to the guy I get my baths from (see ) that I believe do a lot to remove toxins from my body. Can anyone dispute or confirm the reverse osmosis effect?

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

12/23/2010 6:50 PM

I've read a lot on both sides of this subject and while I agree there is no hard & fast science behind it, my experience has been quite positive. The one hing you don't address, and that I rarely see addressed in dispute of it's benefits, is the reverse osmosis tha occurs and, it is this according to the guy I get my baths from (see http://www.modernhealthcoach.com ) www.modernhealthcoach.comthat I believe do a lot to remove toxins from my body. Can anyone dispute or confirm the reverse osmosis effect?

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Re: Ion Cleanse Foot Baths

01/14/2011 12:24 AM

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/can/article/PIIS0304383505007408/abstract A comment about the recent thread that ion therapy is an energy medicine. EM I think has some great benefits when used as it was intended to be used. Basically the physical body has to vulnerable to its' environment. Since we are enacting the media-hungry frauds in most of these and it needs to have truth be the guide. This is not new, it comes from diagnostic testing and well you have to read it first to understand. David R. Hawkins (2004) wrote Power vs. Force: An Anatomy of Consiousness, It was written after other citations of his including Orthomolecular Psychiatry ( with Linus Pauling) and Qualitative and Quantitative Calibration of the levels of human Consciousness.

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01/14/2011 1:03 AM

The emergence of energy medicine (meridian conditions) may be as contested as if 'unconditional love' was thrown out or considered 'out there'. The book is about fundamentalists or what equates to fundamentalism; not giving away the whole book. Hawkins started with the active part of the theory of level of consciousness. It is tough slogging http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2005/02ap-dowsinggod.html as reviewers and detractors come to terms with what is the science of "truth". Could it be it is thought to be identifiable only by the use of calibration of muscle testing and so by the standards he imparts are all answers merely deemed by this simple test? And if we asked all of our questions could they be answered as if they are exact and undeniable truths? If anyone wants to debate what was in this book it would be an interesting one for sure.

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