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GAS PLANT PROCESS

11/21/2009 7:16 AM

1) Is the installation of a block valve in the centrifugal pump down stream is mandatory or not. What are the related reasons? Some people say it is necessary in the time of commissioning in order to preventing of getting high elec. Current by the electrical driver.

What about the reciprocating pump?

2) Why is the installation of safety valve in the down stream piping of reciprocating pump & compressor is mandatory unlike the centrifugal one? ( in all cases i have seen both pump/comp. and related down stream piping have equiped with psv's.

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11/23/2009 12:57 AM

1) Yes, usually. How else would you isolate the pump for maintenance? Sometimes other means of isolation are used and in some cases none is provided because the system does not require it, but this is not so common. It is common to start a centrifugal pump against a cracked open discharge valve in order to run the pump to the left of the curve on start up and then open the discharge valve. This reduces the starting load.

2) Safety relief valves are often not required downstream of centrifugal pumps because they are self limiting to a maximum differential pressure equal to their shut off head. If this pressure is below the design pressure of the downstream equipment then no Pressure Safety Relief Valve is required.

Reciprocating pumps will continue to build up pressure until the relief valve lifts or if this not happen, until something breaks.

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11/23/2009 3:20 AM

Thank you, Dear Guest, Second part of my question 1 was: what about the reciprocating pump? i.e. Is your reasoning(reducing the starting load due to use of block valve) right for reciprocating pump?

For question 2, In the case of centrifugal pump( or comp.), I agree with you. By choosing the down stream piping design press. Over the pump shut off press( or surge point ), There is no need to use of psv because cent. Pump will not capable to increase the press. more than its shut off head. But, my question was about how or mechanism of working of the reciprocating pump( or compressor). On the other hand, in the case of block discharge why dose the recip. Pump( or comp.) increase the pressure unlimitedly until something breaks? and having higher design press. doesnot help to this problem as the PSV always required, unlike the centrifugal one.

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11/24/2009 3:27 AM

Reciprocating pumps are "positive displacement" pumps. The simplest way that I can explain this is; what you suck into the piston has to go out the discharge on the return stroke. If it can not go out due to a closed valve then either the motor will stop or something must break.

You may not start a reciprocating pump with a closed discharge valve.

Think about is carefully, how could closing the discharge valve lower the starting load on the pump? It will suck in a fixed volume and will try to pump it out. Power = volume x density x g x head. As head approaches infinity so does power - something gotta break.

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11/25/2009 7:37 AM

I think I am not yet clear how the head approaches to infinity as you said. The movement of the piston is done by the pump's driver(e.g., a constant speed elec. Motor). If the head depends on the capability of the driver having a definite power, then how does the produced outlet pressure get close to infinity?

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11/27/2009 2:35 AM

How clear do I have to make this? Reead my previous post - then either the motor will stop or something must break.

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11/30/2009 4:11 AM

Dear Guest, thank you.

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