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Liquid battery big enough for the electric grid?

11/21/2009 8:42 PM

MIT news item on a battery, large enough for renewable power systems, some time in the future?

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Re: Liquid battery big enough for the electric grid?

11/21/2009 9:06 PM

Neat!

But one problem though. Just like every other super battery thats been developed in the last 30+ years it will get to the final stages of development and implementation and will likely just magically disappear to never be heard or talked about again.

Just like every high efficiency dirt cheap solar panel design has also so far. Its great, its reliable, its cheap, its high powered, its durable, and it has tremendous service life. Then its gone and never seen again.

Sorry but I wont hold my breath on this one either.

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11/22/2009 12:24 AM

Reminds me of 70mpg carburetors. Remember those? As the tech suggests, I'll not hold my breath.

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11/22/2009 12:30 AM

It would be interesting to see what a good, swift kick would do to the battery... Action upon churning???

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11/22/2009 12:38 AM

Good point. The batteries operate in a stratified condition, and at pretty high temperatures. They would undoubtedly cease to function if subject to vibration serious enough to churn them. It occurs to me that they might even explode, considering how much energy that would be being pumped through them. Probably wouldn't want to have any of these someplace like southern California.

I was in Marin County, 30 miles north of San Francisco during the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake and San Diego during the 1994 Northridge earthquake.

Hmmmm.... This may that fatal flaw the tech was alluding to.

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11/22/2009 11:31 PM

Zzzzzzz ... There already ARE batteries that size that DON'T need to be heated to 700 F. They're called Vanadium Redox batteries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanadium_redox

A company in Vancouver, BC (Canada) went broke earliuer thios year or late last year after having designed one and sold a unit or two. The things were fairly large, since they involved liquid electrolytes and had fairly large capacities and ampacities (electric-current capacity).

The company's name was VRB Power Systems, and it looks like its battery technology is now owned by Prudent Energy: http://www.pdenergy.com/en/applications-solutions/load_level-p_s/load_level-p_s.html

I doubt that the MIT invention is more practical than the vanadium redox technology, especially if it needs 700 F temperatures.

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Re: Liquid battery big enough for the electric grid?

11/24/2009 12:45 AM

Can eletricity be Nano Sized to fit in smaller container?

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11/24/2009 7:11 AM

Nano spin battery

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