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Designing Radial Gas Turbines

12/02/2009 5:49 AM

Can a radial turbine be designed inside-out (sort of) with the centre fixed and the 'body' rotating - with the impeller veins curving in from the outer wall? It would run in a outer bearing shell.

The larger the radius of the machine, the more the rpm (for power take-off) would drop. This avoids the inefficient 'dragging' the gas flow would suffer in a normal RGT caused by 'tightening' the vein geometry.

Outer rotation velocity being a fraction of an equivalent centre shaft machine the GT has built-in reduction gearing.

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Re: Designing Radial Gas Turbines

12/02/2009 11:43 PM

Hello Sheps,

DaS Energy is pioneer in this feild.

Our work has acheived such, and we in fact use such method for electrical generation.

The inner hud provides gas course in flow to perimiter hub shaped vanes.

The outer hub being maganatised in section and the whole much resembling a Fisher and Pykle washing machine motor.

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Re: Designing Radial Gas Turbines

12/03/2009 5:43 AM

Thanks for the info Peter.

Is there a website for DaS Energy?

Can you supply details of the rotational speed of the rotor?

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Re: Designing Radial Gas Turbines

12/03/2009 4:58 AM

Such a thing exists already and is used in aerospace, but not generally for propulsion. A lot of APU (auxillary power units) use a centrifugal/radial principle instead of the typical axial flow setup found on a jet engine.

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Re: Designing Radial Gas Turbines

12/03/2009 8:46 AM

Your design is very close to something I dreamed up 20 years ago... mine has no main or central shaft to hold any blades but instead the blades 'hang' from an outer ring which would run on some kind of roller bearing set up. This idea has never gone further than drawings on paper... feel free to borrow what ever appeals to you (if anything) about the design. cjv

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Re: Designing Radial Gas Turbines

12/03/2009 5:26 PM

Thanks for sharing your ideas Carlos.

Like pretty much every major mechanical design I was sure someone would have had the idea before. I hope I can discover if there is any merit in such a concept or if there is a simple reason why it has not become a commercial product in all the years of GT development.

BTW, when you had your idea 20 year ago, what did you envisage it being used for?

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