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Synchronous Machine Load Angle

12/06/2009 2:29 AM

What is a load angle? I mean I know it is between V(Terminal Voltage) and E ( excitation Voltage )of a Synchronous Machine....But I want to know its physical significance.. How does this angle appears and why? what is the cause of appearance of this angle in simple terms... Another Question a) Suppose load on the Motor is Increased..I read Load angle will decrease b) when speed of a motor goes above synchronous speed (Like in Hunting) what will happen to load angle and why? c) When Speed of a Generator is increased..what will happen to load angle Can somebody please explain how this angle comes into picture and what will happen on change in load( Increase or Decrease ), Change in Speed of prime mover in case of Generator (Increase or Decrease ) and another scenario if Rotor speed goes above synchronous speed? I am terribly confused about this Load angle concept...Is it the angle between Rotating Synchronous Magnetic field and rotor and if so..what will happen to this angle under assumed conditions I stated and why.... Thanks Please get me out of this confusion!!

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Re: Synchronous Machine Load Angle

12/06/2009 5:19 AM

The Synchronous machines have a rotating field (created by the DC excited poles)- say on rotor. This induces the field in the other set of coils (for stator in above case). Upto now you must be aware.

Obviously the two sets of magnetic fields are not aligned. It is like the rotor magnet pulls the stator magnet along it. So there will be a gap (angular) between the two.

This angle is called the load angle.

More is the load, the magnetic spring stretches (load angle increases).

The power equation if you see

Pout = Pmax Sinδ

Rest you can now answer yourself, by physically imagining what happens. Mathematiccs of course I can attach, but then those will be available in any text book.

BTW: as you can see that load angle can be max 900 though one limits it to about 30-400 only. At 90 degrees, the machine becomes unstable (again imagine, the S pole aligning with South pole)

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Re: Synchronous Machine Load Angle

12/07/2009 11:01 AM

Dear Guest,

If you had logged in I would give you a "Good Answer" for your succinct explanation. But, as I know not who you are, I'll simply give you a verbal pat on the back.

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Re: Synchronous Machine Load Angle

12/07/2009 10:02 AM

The higher the torque angle, the more reactive power you're generating (and consequently the less 'active' (real) power)). Synchro-generators have a maximum power-generation capability given in KVA at a given load angle (often (always?) cos x = 0.8) and the maximum active power generated is (maximum KVA rating * cos x). Maximum reactive power is (maximum KVA rating * sin x).

To generate the desired total power, the synchro-generator's excitation is adjusted. To generate active and reactive power in the desired proportion, the load angle is adjusted. One can set the proportion between active and reactive power (within limits) through the generator's controls.

The cause for this angle: like Guest says above, it's the rotating magnetic field generated by the rotor that 'pulls' the stator's rotating field , and it's the angle between the two in the generator that generates current in the stator. If there were to be no angle, no current (and thus no power) would be induced in the stator, and the stator wouldn't be 'magnetically locked' to the rotor. And if there's no current in the stator, there's no power being generated, by definition.

As load increases, the generator's controls will make the adjustments needed to preserve the desired angle. However, as the power generated approaches the generator's maximum capacity, the generator SLOWS (i.e., its frequency drops). This happens when a loads on a grid approach the generation capacity of the generators connected to it; when that happens, the frequency (the rotation speed) of all the generators drops a bit. That sends a signal to grid operators to call for more (add more)power generation.

In the past few years, grid operators in some areas of North America (and I think in Europe, too) have begun to pay generation firms for 'frequency support' services. Here 'frequency support' means having generation capacity ready to support the frequency, that is to raise it (to near 60 Hz) when loads on the grid approach the maximum capacity of the generators connected to it.

Cheers! DZ

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12/21/2009 8:03 AM

Thanks !! got it

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