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Moving Scrap with Elecromagnets

12/09/2009 4:30 PM

I am new to this site and would like some input on a project I am working on.

First in reading posts on this site I am pleased to find that most members are concerned about safety, so am I.

Second, We make nails, in the process of making the points small pieces we call NIBS are removed and get mixed in with the nails. The nails travel along a magnetic conveyor and into a vibrating bowl. The nails are sent down a rail but the NIBS fall onto the floor. Some of the bowls have big troughs around them that catch the NIBS but they just pile up in them and have to be raked out.

I want to make something automatic and more visually appealing.

My thoughts,

Make a small metal trough most of the way around the bowl for the NIBS to fall into. This trough would have electromagnets spaced evenly under neath it. I would have a circuit that would turn on and off the magnets in sequence moving the NIBS around the trough.

The end of the trough would be bent down with the last magnet under the bend. So that when the last magnet was turned off the NIBS would fall into a barrel.

One problem I know of is that sometimes nails upto 4 inches long can get into the trough. So the magnets would have to be placed far enough apart to allow them to move also.

My question to the good people here is, will something like this work? or am I just wasting time. I keep thing that the metal trough will just become magnetized and not do anything. However the magnetic conveyors we use work fine.

The scrap I want to move is very small in size (less than 1/32" x 1/32") So I dont think there should be any safety issues.

Any thoughts would be a great help.

Thanks

TimK

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Re: Moving Scrap with Elecromagnets

12/09/2009 7:34 PM

Can you post a picture? I see a big reel of wire going into a machine with dies and hydraulics, but the cutting of the nibs needs definition, at least for me.

Also, why is NIBS all caps?

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Re: Moving Scrap with Elecromagnets

12/09/2009 10:25 PM

Welcome to the forum.

Don't you feel some sort of simple conveyour belt be more efficient ? The collector of hopper shape can deposit into some small belt and then deposit onto the scrap bin?

All our machine chips are exactly collected that way.

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Re: Moving Scrap with Elecromagnets

12/10/2009 9:22 AM

Thanks for the reply, But the problem is that the vibrating bowls are round and the scrap falls out all around the bowl.

Besides belts do not last long in a nail environment. Small steel pieces of wire with sharp points are hard on rubber belts.

Someone asked for a photo of one of the machines that make the nails. I don't want to dissapoint anyone but there is no fancy hydraulics or breakthrough techknowledgy.

http://www.maschinensucher.de/ma2/bilderanzeigen-A491142-1-english.html

sorry,

Timk

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Re: Moving Scrap with Elecromagnets

12/10/2009 12:29 PM

Machine chips also do not use rubber belts - they are steel belts with hinges - almost like escalator- of course the hinges and the shapes are not similar. And still collections are simple. put a wall around it and a plate below the wall at a taper to collect it

Or as you want one or more rotating electromagnet below this, which switches off at a position, dropping the collections into the bin.

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Re: Moving Scrap with Elecromagnets

12/10/2009 9:00 AM

This looks a vibratory feeder task. Nibs would slide down a shaking trough inclined about 5degrees.

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