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Concrete Rebar

02/15/2010 8:33 PM

How are rebars in concrete installed especially for foundation work or slabs and footings? What are the steps?

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Re: Concrete Rebars

02/15/2010 9:53 PM

Do a googlesearch for "rebar chairs" and "rebar ties". However, because you have to ask, you should not DIY without expert, on the spot, guidance, especially if you want to place walls and beams above the foundation.

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02/16/2010 10:43 PM

foundation concrete normally require compacted earth or a raft slab underneath, then waterproofing layer laid on top depending on the nature of the foundation (just footing or basement, etc.) then re-bars are laid on either the compacted dirt, the raft slab, or waterproofing membrane (care must be taken not to poke holes in it). of course the metal doesn't just lay right on top of the underlying material, often concrete pedestals or plastic pedestals are used, concrete pedestals should be made of the same material as footing or basement slab and should be tested to have equal strength as surrounding material. normally 3" concrete cover on all sides of re-bar is required. Consult a structural engineer and a contractor, practices may vary in different locations, but generally after you've laid top and bottom rebars, tied it together with steel wire, you pour concrete over it and you're done.

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Re: Concrete Rebar

02/16/2010 11:39 PM

Please reveal what part of the world you want answers to apply to. "Guest" tells us nothing about you or your location.

Here are the forms and rebar setup for a simple 10 foot long, 3-1/2 foot wide and 4 inch minimum thick concrete support pad for a 500 gallon propane fuel tank of 4000 pound total filled weight. The rebar is 3/8 inch diameter and is spaced 2 inches off the earth by 2 inch concrete blocks with wire ties cast in. These blocks are referred to locally as "dobies" The ditch on the right or uphill side of the pad will be filled with concrete to form a "key" of sorts that will resist lateral down hill movement in a magnitude 7 earthquake event. Note how the rebar is curved into that mass of the slab.

The above picture is the empty tank being lowered by a truck mounted hydraulic crane onto the finished concrete pad. The 5/8-11 threaded studs in the concrete visible to the right of the tank ends are two of 4 that will hold 1/4" steel cable tie downs to prevent movement during an earthquake.

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Re: Concrete Rebar

02/18/2010 11:40 AM

It is also possible, but not recommended practice, to float the reinforcement. You need to be working with a stiff mix of concrete. In concept, you place the concrete in the form to the level the reinforcement should be placed at. Then place the reinforcement, then place the remainder of the concrete. Like I said, not recommended, but it is done, and sometimes with good results. Based on cores I have extracted from concrete, I would say this method is successful about 40 percent of the time (my opinion only).

Another option is to place the reinforcement on the ground. Then place the concrete. Using a hook on a bar, grab the reinforcement and pull it up to the intended position within the concrete section. Definitely not recommended. Based on cores I have extracted from concrete, I have yet to find a successful installation of reinforcement using this method. It is used a lot by contractors for welded wire fabric. I just shake my head in disgust when I see it.

Chairs, supports, and hangars remain the best option, but they are not perfect. It takes experience, some skill, and care.

See Ed's picture above. But remember that is only half the problem. The other half is to keep the reinforcement where it is at while adding, working with, and finishing the concrete.

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