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load angle and power angle

03/06/2010 1:26 AM

dear all, can any one explain the load angle and power angle of 600MW generator with diagram , is there any relationship between the load angle and power angle ?

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Re: load angle and power angle

03/06/2010 7:56 PM

There are three terms used in this context: Load angle, Power angle and Torque angle.

The load angle primarily used for synchronous generator and torque angle is the same thing for synchronous motor. Power angle is also same in context of synchronous machines but it is more generic – also used in power transmission line.

Let me explain what they are:

Load angle (or Torque angle): For a synchronous generator, the magnetic field rotates at synchronous speed and the rotating magnetic field is created in the stator. These two fields are not fully aligned. The stator field lags the rotating field. This lagging expressed in angle is called load angle. The power developed by the generator is directly proportional to sine of this angle. This angle plays an important role for the stability of the generator. If the angle goes beyond 90º, the generator becomes unstable. This may happen when sudden change of large load occurs or fault sustains longer time. The generator instability is one of reason for massive blackout in case of major fault occurs in transmission line.

For the case of synchronous motor, the angle is called torque angle and the rotating field lags the stator field in this case.

Power angle: For a generator, the power angle is the difference between the generator induced voltage and the generator terminal voltage. The value of the power angle is same as the load angle. So, in context of generator, power angle and load angle mean same thing.

For the case of transmission line the power angle is the angle between the angles of the voltages at two different points (bus). The transfer of power between the two points of power system is proportional to the sine of this angle.

Though there is a distinct difference between these three terms, they are used synonymously in many cases in power system.

See the links below for additional help:

http://www.eolss.net/ebooks/Sample%20Chapters/C05/E6-39A-05-03.pdf

http://services.eng.uts.edu.au/cempe/subjects_JGZ/eet/eet_ch6.pdf

http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/75/04716144/0471614475.pdf

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/47295/Synchronous-Machine-Load-Angle

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Re: load angle and power angle

03/08/2010 1:29 AM

THANK YOU SIR

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01/24/2015 9:15 PM

nice reply but i would like to add more to it ;

talking specifically about the power angle :

whenever we talk about the excitation , rotor has distributed winding which produce an approximately sinusoidally distributed mmf wave in space rotating at synchronous speed "ωs rad/s" ; along with rotor . This mmf wave is taken as space vector which generates an emf called EXCITATION EMF and whenever the stator supplies a balanced load there will be two rotating vectors "Fƒ"and "Far"(armature reaction), this leads to a resultant mmf Fr; this resultant mmf generates an emf called AIR GAP EMF .

then the power angle is stated by the THE AIR GAP EMF induced in the machine lags behind the EXCITATION EMF .

and δ is used in another topic termed as POWER SWING EQUATION in synchronous machine which is the displacement of fixed rotor axis w.r.t. the rotational axis.

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03/07/2010 2:25 PM

I sincerely hope you are a student studying this power plant!

If you are the 'engineer' in charge of this project, you need to get an appropriately trained professional engineer to help you, full time and immediately. A 600MW plant is a very large investment, and many lives depend on the correct installation, setup, and operation of the plant. A lot more than just your reputation is at stake!

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