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Viscosity of HFO

03/30/2010 5:29 AM

The viscosity of Heavy Fuel Oil being quoted by my supplier is listed as 180cst at 50 deg.C. The CAT engines for which this fuel will be used (model MAK 16CM32) requires HFO (CIMAC E25 RME180) with viscosity of 25cst at 100 deg.C. Is there a formula I could use to extrapolate the viscosity value of HFO from my supplier from 50 to 100 deg.C ? My HFO supplier operates in a protected market and not willing to make an effort.

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Re: Viscosity of HFO

03/30/2010 11:20 PM

Do not know of any formula, but from one of my old books I see that long residue is around 180 to 200 cSt at 50 deg C and around 20 to 30 cSt at 100 degC so you could well be OK.

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Re: Viscosity of HFO

03/31/2010 2:36 AM

Hi,

in the book "RTA General Technical Data for RTA52, RTA 62, RTA 72 and RTA 84 M marine diesel engines", Issue 1987/88, Sulzer Brothers Ltd there is a viscosity temperature diagram for fuel oils on the page C4-3. From this diagram, the fuel oil with the viscosity of 180 cSt at 50 deg C will have 22 cSt at 100 deg C. I do not know for any formula for viscosity change calculation.

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Faculty of Engineering, University of Rijeka, Croatia

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Re: Viscosity of HFO

03/31/2010 3:55 AM

Thanks for your help. This surely solve my problem.

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03/31/2010 4:59 AM

Check out the following viscosity chart. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/visc.html

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03/31/2010 5:37 AM

The chart given in the link you provided gives viscosity of various grades of lube oils. Not sure if it can be applied to heavy fuel oil ?

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Re: Viscosity of HFO

03/31/2010 5:49 AM

Petroleum viscosity is temperature driven and given by a natural log function called the 'Andrade" correlation. Standard ASTM charts are the way to go but this calculator is accurate;

http://www.eskoindustries.com/viscadv.php

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03/31/2010 6:08 AM

Thanks. A very useful tool indeed but it requires two known viscosity values at two different temperatures in order to calculate viscosity at a required third temperature. I only have one viscosity value available. In any case, Prof. Vladimir Medica has already answered my question.

I thank all the respondents for their help.

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04/03/2010 12:56 PM

QSK, you can access to this document and find out there the answer to your enquiry. http://home.houston.rr.com/electricpete/eng-tips/ViscosityVsTemperatureCalculator:xls.

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04/03/2010 1:12 PM

Hello everybody:

O.K., there is something wrong in the link submitted, omit the "rr" and everything will be all right.

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04/03/2010 4:30 PM

Eleman, The link doesn't work with rr, without rr it goes to houston city guide, with no reference to the topic. Any clue ?

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04/04/2010 11:50 AM

Hello everybody:

QSK, I am really sorry, but I made a mistake. The correct link is http://home.houston.com/electricpete/eng-tips/ViscosityVsTemperatureCalculator.xls.

If you click it directly from this thread, it appears another place in the web; but, if you access that link through Google, you will be addressed to the thread in the Eng-Tips Forum.

An alternate way is the link www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=181824.

Once again, I am sorry.

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04/04/2010 4:48 PM

Very useful info. Thanks a lot.

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01/14/2011 3:15 PM

MR. Fluid guy, can u please give the formula against which this calculator works? I would really be grateful.

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