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Extra HDD For Graphics Apps.

03/31/2010 8:39 AM

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I have a dell inspiron, I recently sent it back to dell to have a new motherboard put into it(under warranty). Before this we had tried a new hard drive a troubleshooting, and it didn't work. I do now have an extra hard drive. 500 gb scada, along with the 500 gb scada in the computer.

My question to you is this: Can i hook that hard drive up to the laptop, how would I go about doing this, what kind of enclosure would I need to put around it.

My second question: I like to play flight simulator x, it would requires quite a bit of power to run properly and make use in a streaming continuity of the realism that it provides, and with the basic system on my laptop i find myself having to adjust alot of the settings to get a decent flow out of it, now i know I could install an extra graphics card to help with that, is there anyway I could use this extra hard drive to help with that. Basically, I guess i am asking if I can use the memory on the x hard drive as a ram memory, or if it will use that way by default if it is hooked up.\

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03/31/2010 4:37 PM

A little more information would be helpful. What model Inspiron do you have? If it's still under warranty, I would assume it's a fairly new one. As long as it has a Core2Duo processor and at least a 2 gigs of RAM, it probably has adequate horsepower to run your flight simulator app.

As for the extra drive, my best suggestion is to get a suitable external drive enclosure for it, and use it that way. As for as using a hard drive for swap-space RAM, this is a bad idea, as it tends to be very slow. Far better to increase your on-board RAM. BTW, what the heck is a scada drive? I'm guessing that what you mean is serial ATA, or SATA.

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03/31/2010 6:27 PM

Hello,

sata, that what i meant, anyway I just got he computer back today and had to reinstall everything, the model is 1545, I installed fsim, with very minimal on the hard drive, its still pretty jerky with all effects and realism turned up to max, all my specs meet recom or better, but it is just one of those deals where it will function one way, but you really need considerably more to really get the most out of it. A friend told me that I probably need to add another video card, that it was probably trying to steal ram from the hard drive an that was creating the jerky movement, if I turn down some of the more unnecessary effects it runs a little more smoothly, but Im like everyone else want the best i can get

As for the other hard drive, what are the best uses for it, storage, back up, anything i could use for to more power or calculation speed, what do i need to hook it to my computer, and I would assume the same operating system for both

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03/31/2010 7:24 PM

Okay, assuming that this is the basic model e1545, then it has a T4200 CPU, 3 gigs of RAM, integrated Intel graphics, a 15" 16:9 WXGA display, and you mentioned that you had installed a 500gb drive. Correct so far?

Now, please understand that this is a consumer grade machine. Which is to say that it's not terribly powerful. Now don't get me wrong, I have an e1505 here that has done yeoman service for me and is still going strong. But, your machine is not a full-powered gaming machine nor a workstation replacement. Still, as such things go, it's really not bad. The CPU is acceptably fast and it's got plenty of RAM.

Now I hate to tell you this, but there is no way to add a video card to a laptop. The video on this machine is part of the chipset, and there are no expansion slots or sockets to add anything else. So what you have is what you're stuck with there. Still, the Intel video that you have is not bad, it's just not up to high level gaming or CAD/CAM.

There are a few things you could do to upgrade your machines performance. If it still has Vista on it, upgrade up to a 64 bit version of Windows 7. This is a vastly better and faster operating system, and the 64 bit version will allow you to use the full power of your machine.

Next, take a look at your hard drives. Is the installed drive a 5400 rpm or 7200 rpm drive? If for example the installed drive is 5400 rpm and the spare is 7200rpm, then swap them out when you upgrade the OS. 7200 rpm drives are much faster than the older 5400 rpm drives, and will make a noticeable improvement.

As for your flight simulator game, try doing the full install. That may improve your performance, and you do have the room.

For the extra drive, as I said, get an external SATA enclosure, which will connect to your laptop via USB. These can be had on eBay usually for less than $20, but make certain that it will handle a 500gb drive. It will not improve your performance, but it will give you a place to dump excess data so that your drive doesn't become clogged. I have a 500gb external which I use for storing movies, software, etc. It's also not a bad thing for backups.

If you really need more horsepower though, you will have to get a more powerful machine. But before you reach for your wallet, define very carefully what you intend to do with the machine and how much you can afford to spend, and then talk to someone who really knows what he's talking about, about what kind of machine you should buy. For example, there are a lot of great buys on eBay for some very powerful machines. I picked up a Lenovo T61 just a few months ago, a very powerful laptop indeed, for only $400. But remember, this is not something you want to do unaided, unless you really know what you're doing.

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03/31/2010 8:56 PM

Dr. moose

Thanks for the info. All of the above is correct except it has 4gb of ram, all the hdd are 5400, I thought i would try to upgrad the directx, other than that and tweaking the settings to max what i am working on and lessen the extras that is what i am stuck with. when i do get ready to upgrade, i'll give you a heads up and see what you think(didn't think you were getting in that deep)

I can connect the old hdd to externally and use it as storage, though, right? I know I can buy storage ready to connect, I'm just not quite sure how to go about it with a hdd in this manner

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03/31/2010 9:06 PM

Feel free to contact me any time, I just love giving free advice. *Chuckle*

As for the external drive enclosure, it couldn't be more simple. Simply open the enclosure, slip the drive into place, and close it back up again. Usually takes just two screws. Then all you do is plug it into your machine with the included USB cable. Piece of cake.

As for upgrading the directX, if you are already using Windows 7, it's part of the OS. But I seriously recommend getting rid of Vista, if that's what you've got. It's a bloated, needlessly complicated resource hog. And I most highly recommend a 64 bit OS, as they are much, much faster when working with really big files, which almost everything is anymore.

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03/31/2010 10:19 PM

dr moose,

the vista i have is the 64 bit version, but im goin to check in to the 7 upgrade.

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04/01/2010 4:39 AM

With Vista you can plug in a USB memory stick & the OS treats it as extra RAM, useful if you need a temporary boost.

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03/31/2010 10:58 PM

And your typing goes as fast as well. Nothing to add anymore. GA

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03/31/2010 10:20 PM

Buy a external HD housing with the right interface connector and a USB cable. Connect to your dell and you'll have a extra HD. Maybe $20.00 to spend. 2nd question: Better put more Ram if possible, your HD access speed is a lot slower. Also check your processor and clocking frequency. Video need fast processors and a good card with lots of memory.

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03/31/2010 10:37 PM

thanks to all who gave me a little input on this flight sim and hdd problem. I 'm think i'm going to call it a night. It makes a man healthy and wise, as far wealthy, well, it seems to me the bankers get work AFTER everyone else.

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