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Koken Barber Chair Repair 1950's Model (Double-Posted Headrest)

05/22/2010 12:48 PM

Hi All,

I have just acquired a Koken barber chair and am trying to bring it back to full function. It will pump up but not maintain height. Every time I pump it up, it slowly begins to lower to the bottom of its stoke.

I have taken the seat and piston cover off to make it easier to pull the piston higher in the cylinder. As I lift the piston and the oil drains into the cylinder below, I still cannot not see any valves. I assume the check valve that keeps the oil from flowing back into the piston chamber is either stuck open of broken off.

Is it safe to pull the piston out of the cylinder completely allowing the oil to drain into the base, or will cylinder in the base likely overflow?

Thanks for any help in advance!

-danny

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Re: Koken Barber Chair Repair 1950's model (double-posted headrest)

05/22/2010 12:59 PM
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05/22/2010 3:00 PM

Thanks for the reply. I've already read through those threads and came up empty. There were a few people in those threads that seemed like they might have the answer, but they haven't chimed in on this one yet.

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05/22/2010 3:05 PM

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05/23/2010 12:38 PM

Thanks again, lynlynch, but still no answer found! Does anyone here know the answer to my question?

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05/30/2010 8:14 PM

It turns out one of the one-way check valves was broken at some point. the upper (intact) check valve allows oil to flow down into the chamber closed by the plate with the broken valve. The O-ring on the outside of the cylinder is intact and without nicks, cuts, etc. I found the tiny broken pieces of what seemed to be the valves retaining parts. I tried to MacGyver one while watching my twin 6 year-old boys today (FAIL!) I have to pull it apart again in the coming days and fabricate a better valve. The upper check valve (the intact one) keeps the oil flowing downward into a small chamber which is capped by a plate with a second check valve (the broken one). My question is, should the two check valves keep the oil flowing down? I think downward, no? If so, why are there two in the same direction; what does the small chamber do?
-Danny

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06/06/2010 7:17 PM

Update: I removed the failed first try at a check valve and then suddenly remembered that plastics were in their infancy when my chair was designed.

I ended making a simple flat valve out of a plastic container's top; I cut it to fit neatly over the hole in the bottom plate and attached it using two of the piston's mounting screws.

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12/11/2010 9:29 AM

I hope your last fix worked. If not try posting to the other thread. Maybe Herr Heitman will see it and reply. His info is good. Are you south of waco? I am southeast of waco (south of groesbeck). Good luck.

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