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Simple Stator coiling question

05/29/2010 4:09 AM

Hello all, I am currently working on a project that requires a stator ring like the ones found in electric motors where there are 2-3phases of electromagnetic coils placed in a circular fashion with a pole pointing towards the center (look at picture below). The coils would be powered by AC current to make a rotating magnetic field as I do not think DC would create the necessary rotating magnetic field, plus every 2-3 phase motor I have seen on the web has been AC with a 3 phase switch. I am having a hard time finding information on how to build my own stator ring. Like I do not know how to connect each coil to the others in order to make a rotating magnetic field and I cannot find a formula that tells me how many turns I will need to use to create a magnetic field of about 1.5-2 T, which is the strength I need to use since I have to also use neodymium magnets and the magnetic field strength has to be about the same for the project. since a neodymium magnet is about 1.5-2 T at its surface I need to have about that magnetic field strength using the stator.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give. Are there any websites that show how to build stator rings, how to connect the coils together and shows how many turns of coils needed for a certain magnetic field strength? Are there any books with this information? Are there any stores that I could go to and ask? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have googled brushless motors and stator rings, stator coils, etc and all of the information I have found has showed me in what order to connect the windings together but I cannot find information on how the connected windings connect to the 3-phase AC switch or how many turns in each coil I need to create a rotating magnetic field of strength 1.5-2 T as the neodymium magnets that I am also using in my project is about 1.5-2 T at its surface. Would I use the solenoid equation B=u*n*I where n is N/L for each coil of the stator?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you guys in advance for any help you can provide in my first venture in electrical engineering by creating a rotating magnetic field using a steel stator ring, coils of wire, and a 3-phase ac switch.

Stephen

Picture of a stator ring that I found on the internet, mine will be a steel ring with the 4-6 notches for the coils pointing inwards so the rotating magnetic field will be inside the ring:

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05/29/2010 7:17 AM

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05/31/2010 9:13 PM

Get hold of a copy of the following book on homebrewing your own wind turbine generators. It may be available through your public library - my wife once picked up a copy there for me to look at. It has detailed instructions and plans to build your own generator rotor & stator using rare earth magnets, for wind energy applications. It would probably apply to your needs. Good luck!

Homebrew Wind Power

A Hands-on Guide to Harnessing the Wind

By Dan Bartmann and Dan Fink
Foreword by Mick Sagrillo
320 pages, soft cover, 8 x 10 inches, 395 illustrations
ISBN 978-0-9819201-0-8
Published by Buckville Publications LLC, Masonville, CO

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Re: Simple Stator coiling question

06/06/2010 2:12 AM

Hey all

I have looked at both reference materials supplied but I still cannot find a formula to tell me how many turns per coil I need for my stator ring to create a 2 T rotating magnetic field. Does anyone know how I can tell how many turns I need?

Also, what three phase automatic switch would work best for a stator ring? Do you guys know of any stator assembly manuals or directions on how to assemble and connect the stator and to tell how many turns are needed.

Thanks so much for you guy's help.

Stephen

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06/07/2010 2:43 AM

Hey guys

I still have not found a formula that can help me determine the number of turns per coil on a six coil stator ring setup that would create anywhere from 1.2-2T magnetic field, which would be in range of the strength for a neodynium magnet. Can you guys help me out. I am not trying to build a motor, just a stator ring.

Here are a couple of links that shows kinda what I am trying to do:

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book5/18b.htm

and this link as well: http://www.wisc-online.com/objects/ViewObject.aspx?ID=IAU11808

Thanks for any help you guys can give me.

Stephen

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06/22/2010 6:28 PM

As I have researched, all I need to create a rotating magnetic field is a stator ring with 6 coils and powered by either 3-phase AC power or DC power like in a brushless motor. My two questions are is there a formula to tell me how many turns per coil of the steel stator ring do I need to make a certain magnetic field, about 1.3T or a program that will simulate the stator ring and tell me how many turns per coil? Also, since a 3-phase power supply is very expensive and the converters start at 200 dollars for 1hp, how would I connect the six coils to use DC to create the rotating magnetic field?

Thanks so much for the help.

Stephen

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