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Desktop Replacement Laptop

07/23/2010 4:56 PM

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I'm looking for a desktop replacement laptop. It needs to have at least a Core i3 processor, 3GB of memory and a 320GB hard drive. Of course, more is always better, but I'm not looking to spend a fortune.

There are certain limmits in even the best Laptop, Keyboard, mouse [though may be done with USB ones but USB ports limited], Addiin cards and ... more

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Re: Desktop Replacement Laptop

07/23/2010 8:34 PM

Gateway NV5922u LX.WJA02.003 Notebook PC

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07/23/2010 9:32 PM

I have been building and programming computers for a very long time now. I have at one time or another owned just about every kind of computer there is, and I do know something about hardware.

There are really only two marques of laptop computer out there that truly stand the test of time. Those are the Lenovo ThinkPads and Apple MacBook Pro. Very powerful, and incredibly tough. Both command a premium price, but both are very much worth it, as they will still be serving when virtually all other marques have been scrap for many years.

You said you wanted a desktop replacement. There are two questions you must ask yourself. First obviously, how much do you wish to spend? Second, exactly what do you wish to use this machine for?

For example, if you plan to use this laptop for engineering, you want as a minimum, a 15 inch (38cm) matte screen with the greatest possible resolution, and professional graphics. On the other hand, if you were going to use it for gaming, you would want video graphics.

As I recall from a previous post by you, you were thinking of an engineering laptop. The best engineering laptop available today is the Lenovo W510, though it is rather costly, about $1750US configured to the specifications you mentioned above. A somewhat less expensive but completely competent machine would be the T510, around $1200US with an i5, 4gigs of RAM, and HD+ screen, professional graphics and a 320gig drive. And you can always look for last years models on eBay and the like for significantly less.

It is easy to spend considerably less money for lesser machines, but I know of no others that are as well made or long-lived as these.

Feel free to contact me with more detailed requirements and I will be happy to assist you.

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07/25/2010 12:27 PM

Regards & thanks for your reply [I should call it HELP].

Sorry to reply late as I was in move & wireless communication is very limited in my country; as you have mentioned a latetter post [I am in Pakistan]

As for as considering a Mac Machine is out of a choice as a few people have even listened of it. We prefer PC Windows types

I have not yet finished with studying all the replies & sorry not to post a conslidated reply. Power outage is another problem.

I need some time to study all the posts & thanks to all friends

See later soon.

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07/23/2010 11:21 PM

HERE IS something that was said at an M S meeting the subject was brought up by an executive to a bunch of code geeks . can someone tell me a "LEXUS" quality brand of computer we can run our operating systems on. After ten minutes of discussion and brand naming, someone said " we can load our system on a MAC" Steve said "think about that" K

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07/24/2010 12:03 AM

The MacBook Pro is certainly as well made and as tough as the ThinkPad T and W series laptops. However, there are certain differences to consider.

Most significantly, the MacBook is built using an nVidia GForce discrete graphics chip. This is a video graphics GPU, which means that it has been designed for gaming and entertainment. More specifically, it is designed to support a limited number of polygons which move around quite rapidly.

The ThinkPad on the other hand is available with an nVidia Quadro discrete graphics GPU, a professional graphics chip. This is designed to support computer-aided design, in which there are tremendous numbers of polygons which do not move around much at all.

The Mac has a built in lithium polymer battery. It had remarkable battery life, but obviously cannot be removed and replaced without opening the case. The ThinkPads on the other hand have removable batteries which can be swapped out in a matter of seconds. They are also able to use multiple batteries for extended time un-plugged. This is less important for a machine that spends most of it's time on a desk, but is very significant for a machine that will spend time in the field.

The Macs come standard with a glossy screen which is difficult to use in all but the lowest office light, and quite frankly useless out-of-doors, though they can be ordered with a matte screen at extra cost. The ThinkPads come standard with matte screens across the line.

The Macs have something called a MagSafe power adapter, which connects to the laptop using magnets and surface contacts. If the power cord is stressed in any way, the adapter simply breaks away from the laptop. This is very significant, as the biggest killer of laptops is when someone trips over the power cord, either hooking the computer off the desktop or disconnecting the power receptacle from the motherboard.

The Macs have somewhat limited configurations options, the Lenovos much more so.

The Macs have an back-lit keyboard, the Lenovos have an LED built in to the top of the lid to illuminate the keyboard.

Most significantly, the Macs as rather more costly than the Lenovos, though this distinction disappears as one gets into the higher level configurations of the W series. However, identically configured, the top-level 15" MacBook Pro costs just less than $2800, where the T510 is just under $2300, some $500 less.

The Mac has the ability to run OSX, Windows and Linux/UNIX on the same machine, whereas the Lenovos cannot run OSX.

And lastly, where the ThinPads are as ugly as a brick, the MacBook Pro is elegantly beautiful.

For the engineer, the ThinkPads with professional graphics seem to me to be the better choice. Though I must admit that I can only recommend the T and W series, and possibly the X series for an ultra-portable. The remaining series are built from less powerful and lesser quality components, and lack the shear toughness of the T and W.

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07/24/2010 1:05 AM

If you call the HP small business group- 800-888-9909- they will ask you important questions regarding your needs and then define the best computer to meet your needs.

That computer will come with exactly what you need/want and absolutely NO adware or sample stuff. You can get it loaded with XP (32 or sometimes 64) or Win7 Pro or Linux or multiples or those.

You can get the machine with 24 or 36 month warrantees, including onsite service within 24 hours.

You can also get a docking station with LOTS of USB ports and other connections.

My current primary machine is a "mobile workstation" that, when it came out 2 years ago was only 1 of two machines listed by AutoCAD as being able to satisfactorily run their "Inventor" 3D software that can run stress analysis on assembled machines that have been designed. Back then, my machine, including docking station and UltraLife battery, cost about $4200. The other system was a desktop workstation that could run up to two quad-core processors and (4) 1-TB hard drives that "started out (with a 24" flat screen HD moinitor) at $3750.

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07/24/2010 1:19 AM

The last HP I bought new did not outlive it's warranty by a month.

With HP I will grant that you get a lot of computer for the money. But in terms longevity and sheer brute toughness, they don't even begin to compare to the T or W series ThinkPads or the MacBook Pro. Pity, they used to build the best computers money could buy.

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07/24/2010 1:23 AM

Also, Haajee lives in Pakistan, where on-site service from any manufacturer may not be readily available. For his purposes, he will need the toughest, most reliable laptop computers available, which are the Lenovo or the Apple.

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