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200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 3:04 AM

Dear freinds,

hello!

I am a testing engineer and i want some help from you regarding the leakage current test on the 12kV on 200kV high voltage test set.

I am doing this test on 30mm FRP rod specimen under the two brass electrodes (size, Outer dia-60mm, Inner dia-50mm, Thickness-25mm), i need the value of leakage current less than 1mA , but i am getting 1.6mA at 12 kV, please help me in this regards.

thanks

Rahul sharma

New delhi, India

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 10:50 AM

If you are in all seriousness a testing engineer (which I very much doubt) why dont you ask the materials manufacturer?

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 11:34 AM

Are you testing with AC or DC?

How large is your test sample?

If you are testing with DC, calculated loss is nearly 20 watt. 20 watt in small test sample doesn't seem possible.

What current do you get with test sample removed?

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/27/2010 4:24 AM

Respected sir,

here i am using the cut sample of the frp rod (size dia:33.5mm and thickness:30+/-0.5mm), which is cleaned by iso propyle alcohal.

sir what i am thinking that we have 200kV high voltage set, and if we use 100kV high voltage set, then result can be change.

sir i asked to my previous company fellow that perform this test on the 100kV high voltage set, then he obeserved that leake current on the same specimen is 0.8mA, that is twice then the 200kV high voltage set, which is 1.6mA.

but sir i have only 200kVhigh voltage set, so sir how can i solve this problem on the 200kVhigh voltage set

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 11:50 AM

Guest Quote "i need the value of leakage current less than 1mA , but i am getting 1.6mA at 12 kV"

This is a design issue. If you sample leaks 1.6ma and you want it to leak 1ma or less then something has to change in the design. The leakage is what it is.

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 2:26 PM

Yes, and to force a lower readout, would be cheating.

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 3:00 PM

It is possible that either the material under test is not as good an insulator as you require BUT it is also possible that some other external variable is interfering with your results such as humidity (which has caught me out on a 5kV test), unclean test sample surface, etc which would allow tracking across the surface of the sample. Even a small amount of surface pollution resulting in tracking or leakage would interfere with your results giving you a false leakage current reading.

Additionally don't discount the fact that the test voltage may not actually be 12kV but higher due to tolerance errors, uncalibrated instruments, etc. Are you accurately measuring the voltage or going by the markings on a panel dial (which are rarely accurate and can result in significant errors). Obvious stuff but it catches many people out.

One last thing that has also caught me out is check the position of your test leads going between your HV test set and your sample. I was rather surprised to see that even brand new silicon insulated leads placed in parallel close together altered the leakage current readings significantly enough to cause a problem. Check your leads and try moving them apart and see if that helps.

If it is not anything I have mentioned above have a close look at the electrical and test standards relating to your test for further advise (it may be that you are performing or have set up the test rig incorrectly).

Let us know what you find.

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/26/2010 8:12 PM

Respected sir,

here i am using the cut sample of the frp rod (size dia:33.5mm and thickness:30+/-0.5mm), which is cleaned by iso propyle alcohal.

sir what i am thinking that we have 200kV high voltage set, and if we use 100kV high voltage set, then result can be change.

sir i asked to my previous company fellow that perform this test on the 100kV high voltage set, then he obeserved that leake current on the same specimen is 0.8mA, that is twice then the 200kV high voltage set, which is 1.6mA.

but sir i have only 200kVhigh voltage set, so sir how can i solve this problem on the 200kVhigh voltage set.

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Re: 200kV High Voltage Test Set

08/29/2010 2:50 PM

sir what i am thinking that we have 200kV high voltage set, and if we use 100kV high voltage set, then result can be change.

No, the result cannot change unless the test sets are different in some way (different voltage waveform, regulation, frequency, etc).

It still sound like you either have an excessive leakage problem in your test setup as a result of either your test set (dirty insulators, etc), your test leads or your test setup (see my comments above in post #5). These could all be factors that are effecting your reading but I think the most important thing to do is to double check your leakage current and voltage measurements to make sure they are displaying accurately.

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08/31/2010 12:52 AM

Dea sir,

hello!

thanks for your's valuable suggetion in this work,

but sir i have performed the same test on the 100kV high voltage test set in my previuous company, and the result of the leakage current are 0.4-0.8mA, but here on the same specimen(FRP rod), theresulat is just double 1.6mA, on the 200kV high volateg test.

yes i clean my test specimen with the iso propyl alcohal , as per IEC-61109.

but i couldn't find satisfactory result.

sir i disscussed with the senior engineer, he replied me that conect the 1kilo ohm resistance in the ground wire, so that you can get low leake current, i connect 1 kilo ohm resostate in series with bthe ground wire but on 12kv i obeserved the 1.6mA same leake current.

now please help me if i conewct the same resostate in series with the phase wire coming from the transformer, then can i get goood result.

help me sir.

rahul sharma

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08/31/2010 2:51 PM

now please help me if i conewct the same resostate in series with the phase wire coming from the transformer, then can i get goood result.

Again it depends on how your 200kV test set is designed and what is written in the standards relating to your particular test. From what you are saying there may be a difference in the way the new 200kV test set works compared to the 100kV test set you used at your previous job (such as a compensating series resistance as mentioned).

In a case like this I would talk with your local test engineers (those that know how to use the specific 200kV test set) and check your company test manuals (and 200kV test set manual) as the setup procedure for this 200kV test set may indeed be different than you are used to which is causing you to read a much higher leakage current.

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