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Zero Carbon Homes by 2016

10/19/2010 8:32 AM

The UK are proceeding with there plan of having any new homes built by 2016 carbon neutral. However nobel the proposal is it doesn't seem to be viable in such a small time scale, personal economic factors and not to mention the estimated rise in population in the coming decade. Its stated that the government want level 6 in Code for Sustainable Homes to be called carbon neutral, to put this into perspective this standard has improved thermal resistance values over the Passive House.

Will the UK achieve there target or is this just there way on aiming higher to achieve the best result possible?

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10/19/2010 9:09 AM

Unfortunately, the people that dream up these ideas almost never stop to consider the costs involved. Have they provided any data to show how this will impact the cost of a new home?

I'd be willing to bet that it will raise the price far beyond what the average person can afford.

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10/19/2010 10:49 AM

This carbon neutrality thing seems to me to be just another way for the lawyers and other hieves and scammers to convince us that we should give them money so they can save the planet for us.

Everything we do in the quest for carbon neutrality transfers wealth from the poor slobs who live paycheck to paycheck to the above mentioned "saviors" who diligently scheme every day to find new ways to separate us from our money.

Well, I have news for you all. The planet is DOOMED to destruction. It's just a question of the timing and cause. Could be a mega earthquake, asteroid or our own greed.

Notice I left out global warming since there are so many radical, right wing religious fanatics out there who insist that the planet isn't getting warmer at all.

I must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed.

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10/20/2010 3:42 AM

Don't sweat it - we're well used to the UK promising big and delivering small.

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10/20/2010 4:32 AM

Quote from CIOB (2008):

Climate change is one of the most serious challenges
facing the world in the 21st century. With 50% of
emissions being apportioned directly to the buildings we
live and work in, the built environment is in the front line
of the battle to cut carbon dioxide emissions.


The challenge of reducing emissions is not just limited to
new building stock but to existing buildings as well. The
majority of the 2025 building stock has already been built,
and improving the performance of the existing building
stock is the most important and potentially effective area
where carbon emissions can be significantly reduced.

Rightly or wrongly, the focus so far, has been on delivering
zero carbon new buildings. The UK Government has
set a goal for all new homes to be zero carbon by 2016.
Ministers have also set out an ambition to require all
new schools to be zero carbon by 2016; all public sector
buildings by 2018; and potentially all new buildings by 2019.

To achieve these targets a clear and pragmatic
definition of zero carbon
must be agreed by industry
and government, and consistently applied across different
building types. The definition, which is outlined in industry
standards and codes of best practice, must allow sufficient
levels of flexibility to be achievable in the vast majority of
situations, without reducing the level of ambition in terms
of carbon emission reductions overall. It must also be
applicable across domestic and non-domestic buildings
to facilitate the delivery of mixed-use developments.

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Zero Carbon Definition Announced

The Minister of State John Healey MP has this month (Aug 2009) written a statement covering important housing policy issues.

His announcements covered the further definition of zero carbon, affirming the zero carbon targets, announcing Eco Town sites and a consultation on the climate change and renewable energy planning policy statements.


In his statement, he confirmed that all new homes will be zero carbon as of 2016. He also outlined the official definition of a zero carbon home as "one whose carbon dioxide emission is zero or negative across the year. This includes energy regulated by Building Regulations and other energy used in the home."

(i.e., A zero carbon home is one that generates as much power as it uses over the course of a year and therefore has net zero carbon dioxide emissions.)

The statement also announced a regulatory minimum "carbon compliance" standard. This will be 70 per cent of regulated energy use. He also outlined new support for small scale renewable heat and electricity generation through the Renewable Heat Incentive and Clean Energy Cash Back. This will be available for zero carbon homes.
Any carbon not mitigated on site will be dealt with through a range of good quality "allowable solutions" including:
* further carbon reductions on site beyond the regulatory standard
* energy efficient appliances meeting a high standard which are installed as fittings within the home
* advanced forms of building control system which reduce the level of energy use in the home
* exports of low carbon or renewable heat from the development to other developments

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My conclusion for Zero Carbon Homes by 2016 is:

The zero carbon home has more to do with creative carbon accounting and nothing to do with the amount of carbon embedded in:

(a) transportation of low carbon or carbon neutral (biomass) fuels to the home

(b) the initial construction of the house, so one could theoretically build it out of insulated concrete forms, one of the most carbon and fossil fuel intensive forms of construction

(c) Any carbon not mitigated on site will be dealt with through a range of good quality "allowable solutions"

Any of the above will still qualify. Therefore, by creative carbon accounting, it is definitely possible to achieve the zero carbon home target by 2016.

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10/21/2010 11:51 AM

At least they seem to have enough sense that when writing an egg headed law they put loopholes in it to make it easily gamed and not a killer.

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11/06/2010 9:12 PM

This carbon-thing has been well thrashed in this thread.

It is our responsibility to inform elected representatives of the lunacy of the lack of Because it does sound so logical, it has taken a life of its own.

Very difficult is debunking the carbon neutral concept as eloquently as the proponents advance it.

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