The Perfect Pond Liner

As I found out when I tried to locate visquene for a construction project (it had been specified by the owner), "visquene" refers to LDPE (low density polyethylene) sheeting. Apparently it used to be the trade name of a particular manufacturer's LDPE sheeting.
by Martin Veneroso 06 Jan 05, 0444 GMT

thank you so much.

Where you actually able to locate this material? or do i simply need to ask for a low density poyletholene sheeting and see if their faces continue to fall. I will start making contacts now. Thank you again. Dupton

Polyethylene sheeting of various grades and composition is available everywhere (varying degrees/compositions of UV stabilizers, recycled and other, non-ldpe plastic). But Visqueen is a brand you can still buy from http://www.visqueenbuilding.co.uk/

I took the link and found it. Thank you so much.

I know about polyethylene sheeting, but what is available for most home consumers, is too thin to tolerate extended periods of water pressure. The pond liners that are designed for this purpose come in a wide array of colors called BLACK.

Although black adds a certain mystery to the depths of the pond, it also adds a little trepidation to a pool where you may plan to swim. A natural look would be much better.

So if I can find a vapor barrier that isn't black, that can withstand the water pressure on the bottom of a swimming pond and take a little bottom painting, then I've got it made. I can create a new type of swimming pond as apposed to the standard Roman bath type of swimming pool we have now.

Once you start talking gunit and cement products, the cost becomes prohibitive.

What country do you live in?

In the United States this is a very common material sold in Lumber yards, Home Depot Stores, Lowes Building Material Stores, most large hardware stores and many paint stores as it is also used by painters as a "drop cloth". Also Garden stores carry this product. Every house in America that is built with a "crawl space" has to have a layer of visquene on the ground under the house. It is the law in every state.

A GOOGLE Search: Results 580 English pages for visquene. (0.23 seconds)

You might try a GOOGLE Search in your country for VISQUENE. I am sure that most industrialized countries would have sellers of this product. If not, I am sure you could find an American distributer that would ship to you.

Hi, thank you so much for your input. Yes, I get my mail at Home Depot. The polyethylene sheeting you are speaking of is standard stuff which we all use for everything from covering windows to picnic tables. The greatest thickness I can find is .8 mils. I have it is black and clear and use it to underlay small patio areas too.

unfortunately, it is not adequate pond lining material. It has a working life of about two years before it begins to break down even without water pressure. For something to hold up under water pressure, the thickness needs to start on the other side of the period. 15. 20. 45. 60. and contain some UV protective components.

I have been trying to locate poly sheeting in a greater thickness, something at least 20 mils. I am curious about this visqueen material and was given a link by another interested member such as yourself. I am looking into this now. Thank you again for your invaluable help. D Upton

Hi,

it is used for making a shower pan as a waterproofing. I'm a tile installer and I use it all of the time. it comes in 4&6 foot rolls. and you can buy it at home depot. Just ask for a shower pan liner. you can also buy it at florida tile. you will need to apply the waterproof cement for the seams or it will leak. follow the instruction on the can of cement.

If you are really interested in the perfect pond "even considering a small lake"

I have seen it placed, finished and it is very impressive. Also can get it in other colors. Leave it to the Chinese. With EU help of course.

www.hitecfilms.com and go to ponds.

Have it shipped $. If you live on coastal range pick up at port of entry.

If in a hurry can get a courier service through broker. Cost would be $$$.

This is great! i have set a link to this site.

My idea is to build natural swimming holes. I can't keep people out of the water features I've built. I've tried to make them user friendly with low flat bridges where you can dangle your feet in the water, and natural built-in easy access steps for performing maintenance. Now every warm sunny day my clients sneak into the ponds, sit on the built-in steps and call me asking about swimming pools. The one I have planned is 18x28x5'.

Thank you for this liner information, I appreciate your time. D Upton

Natural clay bed material is a better solution. It can be engineered to either completely block all seepage or used a a sift without the toxic effects that the toxic liquid contained may have on polymers and other pleastic types of materials. In addition, it can be controlled naturally without any chemical additives.

That "clay" word keeps coming up enough to tell me I am not paying attention.

I am under the impression that clay is slimy, cloudy and unfit for vacuuming devices and other agitation filtration methods that accompany standard swimming pools. There is also the issue of abrasion.

We have a very high content of clay in our soil here, and I have manage to bend it to may wonderful designs beneath a prophylactic membrane. but remove the membrane and you get mud. Deep horrible sucking red mud.

Bentonite clay is used for pond lining, but how does it stand up to kids jumping in, and climbing out? Can it be packed hard enough to perform as well has it's expensive alternatives like cement?

I find the best way to approach a project is to start with a pie-in-the-sky-no physical rules, If only I had wings idea, and then whittle it down to size with a little logic, tempered with what is available in the catch-all drawer.

I want a swimming pond. A natural, pond that looks like the real thing, but works like and engineered well thought out self contained system. It has to be affordable, both from and installation stand point and a maintenance stand point.

I have a design in mind and on paper, but what will set this design apart from all others is the lining material. if it is true that necessity is the mother of invention, then we have a child here, and between the clay, the rubber 45 mil pond lining materials in black and the 15. vinyl swimming pool liners with the stamped rocks and fish, we are very close to coming up with just the right liner for custom designed swimming ponds.

In my conversations with folks like yourself, you have given me so much useful information. I have not explored the clay idea enough, and am only now beginning to find information about sheet liners that can be painted with appropriate designs for custom ponds. thanks to you, and the time you have taken to offer me your insights, you have begun to open up a new field. i cannot thank you enough, and I have truly enjoyed these conversations. I will now get to work on the clay. I have a very good source for pond materials at www.AZponds.com D upton

Look into the cost also because the liner is not a cheap date! I want to build mine with a real neat pool tile and trim it in stone. I've been setting stone for 30 yrs., and I've seen some pretty neat designs that I'm going to incorporate.

What about a replacement pool liner? you can get colors and tile patterns.... just a thought.

Can anyone tell me if the shower pan liners have oils or other material that would leach out of the liner into the water?