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Green Power Saver - Does this Work?

10/28/2010 9:11 AM

I just came across a product that claims to save from 15% to 30% of the average home's power usage. The write up looks as if this a power factor correction capacitor rig. Anyone know anything about this product?

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Re: Green Power Saver - does this work?

10/28/2010 9:13 AM

Sounds interesting. Could you give us a link or a name? I googled green power saver and just came up with a store that sells all kinds of stuff.

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10/28/2010 9:25 AM

Here is the site greenpowerelectricsaver.com

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10/28/2010 9:36 AM

Judging from the lack of information and the fact that they will only provide information through one of their "customer service reps" leads me to believe this is probably some kind of scam. It may work to a small degree in situations. Not convinced.

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10/28/2010 9:36 AM

i don't know about this but for my n73 i have a cool application called "Green-Charger" from Nokia ovi store which really saves electricity and save battery.

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10/28/2010 10:03 AM

Looks like a scam to me. Why? I personally know of appliances that are still working that were built in the 50's and 60's, without this $500 unit.

Save electricity? Doubt it. Appliances use what they use.

This is no reflection on you or your post, completely valid, in fact, this is a great place to examine things like this. Maybe someone here has one and can tell us how great it is.

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10/28/2010 9:41 AM

The URL just dumps you on You Tube? That is a web site?

These things are 100% scam or else some loony on the fringe would not be trying to hustle it - the big companies would be selling it.

The probably also sell magnetic water softeners, DIY space shuttles and other things. All require the same staff and skill.

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10/28/2010 9:49 AM

I just tested the site address: greenpowerelectricsaver.com

Works fine. Takes to the web site.

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10/28/2010 9:55 AM

I am unable to - for whatever reason

What company with a real product starts out on Facebook?

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10/28/2010 9:59 AM

Keep your money in your pocket! Save 100% of the outlay costs. Just really read the sites blurb.

This is the bit that got me

Will I see any amperage draw with nothing but the Green Power Electric Saver turned on? Yes, you will have 7 amps of recycling power. That recycled power does not cost you anything.

You won't see any current drawn, it's after your meter!
7 amps for how long?
You've paid for the power all ready!

It's a rip off!

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10/28/2010 10:28 AM

I'm somewhat familair with the unit. Your suspicions about it are correct.

Save your money - there are better energy-saving options out there.

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10/28/2010 12:42 PM

SCAM ALERT SCAM ALERT SCAM ALERT SCAM ALERT SCAM ALERT SCAM ALERT

Basic issue here:

Improving Power Factor does not save meaningful energy for YOU, the end user!

The entire concept is a scam being foisted onto the public at large who is generally ignorant (through no fault of their own) as to what Power Factor is and what it means to your utility bill.

PF correction, AT THE LOAD, reduces the line current seen by a current meter, but it does NOT decrease the Watts consumed to any degree worth implementing in a residential service, and residential services are only billed for watts (via kWh), not amps. PF correction at the line service terminals does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, not even the tiny bit of I2R savings from reducing the current in the cables. Repeat, NOTHING as far as the consumer is concerned. It is a lie, and the "proof" they use is a lie based on not showing the information that actually means something. ALL of these devices are the same, NONE of them are worth the paper they print their lies on. Their basic marketing principal on these things is that a lie, repeated often enough and supported by layers of other lies repeated often enough, will start to sound like the truth.

Power utilities insist on correcting Power Factor for LARGE industrial users because it saves THEM money on transmission and distribution equipment costs. For industrial and some large commercial end users, they add a kVAR meter that is used to assess penalties if the Power Factor is below a certain spec. So those large end users with that added meter can save MONEY by correcting PF and avoiding the penalties, but still that does not save them "energy". But NONE OF THIS PERTAINS TO RESIDENTIAL USERS ANYWAY!

Don't be fooled by this scam, and by the way, many of the postings "asking questions" about these kinds of products an many of the positive "replies" in forums like this are actually an indirect marketing scam done by agents of the manufacturers and purveyors of this crap to try to lend legitimacy to their bogus claims. I don't believe the OP nor any of the respondents in this case is part of the scam, but I say that so that in the future, you will all read these kinds of posts with more skepticism and not buy into the subterfuge. It happens a lot.

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

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10/28/2010 1:07 PM

Well put - GA

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10/28/2010 1:32 PM

You know, it may just be me but if I'm reading into your comments what I think you're trying to put out there, then I'm sensing a little something which seems to to me (and again, this is just my subjective opinion here - and you know what they say about opinions!) that maybe your overall impression vis-a-vis the consumer benefits to be had by this particular item under discussion is, well, somewhat contra-positive.

Is that correct?

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10/28/2010 1:34 PM

It seems to me that he did a brilliant job of stating the obvious.

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10/28/2010 3:19 PM

Obvious to some, but not to enough people. I read an article some time back about how the internet has caused a proliferation of these types of scam energy saving devices again (there was another big surge in the 1970s), and they said the estimated sales of these junk units worldwide was almost a billion dollars US! There are apparently an awful lot of suckers out there. There are governments in 3rd world countries that have so thoroughly swallowed the line of BS that they have endorsed and in one case even mandated their use... very sad.

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10/28/2010 1:40 PM

A piece of junk is a piece of junk - no matter the color or whatever politician starts to make wild claims.

This is simply one of the ongoing scams that scamsters love as you don't even have to have an original idea, go to any real expense to produce, certainly no engineering charges apply.

There is a continual supply of suckers out there who get hooked before they ask around.

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10/28/2010 3:10 PM
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10/28/2010 3:30 PM

Now come on... while your posts are generally right on target, this time you are way off in the weeds so to speak. These devices work exactly as they were intended to. They perform exactly the role their designers intended for them.

Namely... fleecing poor unsuspecting folk who buy them.

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10/29/2010 11:49 AM

LOL, my bad...

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10/28/2010 1:51 PM

I guess the same old rule of thumb is still alive and well.

"If it sounds too good to be true, it is."

I intentionally left out the word "usually", because in my entire life, I've never seen anything that sounded to good to be true have any merit.

Another personal rule....If I find myself saying, "WOW! Why doesn't everybody have one of these? It's a scam.

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10/28/2010 3:11 PM

Yada, yada yada, then this, "The heat generated is called watts."

The hype generated is called crap!

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10/28/2010 3:44 PM

Many thanks guys. This is a great site with many knowledgeable engineers.

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