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Difference Between TA7504M and TA7505M

12/08/2010 3:05 AM

Dear friends, I repaired an obsolete control card, named RTS1 that was installed in a Toshiba governor control system some 26 years ago. I am afraid to proceed with the on-line test because of a discrepancy discovered during the mandatory pre-check ritual. There are five pieces of TA7504M, an 8-pin metal can IC on the repaired card. The same components on the good and working card pulled out from the control system have TA7505M. I am unable to find any schematic diagram or manual for the repaired card. I managed to find the datasheet for the TA7504M but not the TA7505M. Upon further searches, I managed to find a bit more information for the TA7505M. The TA7504M and TA7505M are general purpose operational amplifiers. The TA7504M has several alternatives likes UA741 and their equals but not the TA7505M. Both are identical and their mechanical layouts pin to pin, characteristics and ratings are the same except for two major differences. The TA7504M uses the bipolar junction transistors (BJT) while the TA7505M uses the field effect transistor (FET). The latter has a better offset spanning feature than the former. I guess that the later version RTS1 cards used the TA7505M because of its improved features as against the TA7504M used in the earlier version cards. I would greatly appreciate it if any of our kind friends can share his or her experience to find the datasheet for the TA7505M. And share answering this question: Can the TA7504M and TA7505M be mixed in the same RTS1 card? The good card has all TA7505M while the repaired one has all TA7504M. Thank you and regards. Rockybeer

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Re: Difference Between TA7504M and TA7505M

12/08/2010 9:45 AM

Without a detailed schematic, I could not say with absolute certainty that there will be no difference using either part. Since you've already identified that both of these parts are general purpose operational amplifiers, I would be very surprised if your circuit will act any differently with these different parts.

I say go for it.

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12/08/2010 10:43 PM

I have replaced the 5 pieces of TA7504M with the same on the RTS1 card. I have also informed the engineer concern to go for the on-line test. He has not respond yet. Will update folks again when the card is being tested.

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12/08/2010 10:54 PM

Thank You. I appreciate this and future feedback.

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12/12/2010 10:28 PM

Sure that I will update the thread after the test is done. The test can be done quite quickly but the schedule may not be. It may be a month from now waiting for the next scheduled shutdown of the governor. Thank you for the comment. Have a nice day!

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12/09/2010 5:55 AM

Plenty of TA7505M for sale here http://www.ic2ic.com/search.jsp?sSearchWord=TA7505M

But I'm sure you already knew that.

What is very annoying here is that these sites claim to have the data sheet, but, when you follow the link you just get to the alldatasheet search page, and, they don't have the datasheet.

Is there a way to complain to these sites about this practise. Or is there a way to search which avoids this red herring.

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12/12/2010 10:51 PM

Thank you Randall for the lead to buy these TA7505M. Currently we do not need to buy them yet. We will test the card that were already replaced by the TA75704M. We should be able to know whether the repaired card whose original components were the TA7504M, is working when we shut down the governor to test it. Will update the thread promptly after the test.

As for the annoying sites that entice us for our requirements and failed to deliver them, it is just the businesses' ploys and strategies. It is also impossible to do anything at all. Likes the CR4, we think the forums are sources of great help. We really cherish getting those difficult to find information from the invaluable contributions from the nice people here. Cheers!

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