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671 Detroit Oil Leaks

01/24/2011 10:41 PM

I have a 671 marine diesel that has always been dependable. I had a business partner that was handling the maintenance and, well was not doing it well. Enough said I am now learning oodles about the intricate maint of a 671.

I had a late fall contract where I was towing a sidescan for about 6-7hrs a day at an average of 4 knots. On the return voyage (from the survey site at approx 8 knots) she would smoke like hell. I understand that the 671 does not like low rpms especially for extended periods. What I noticed was an absence of wet-stacking and the trademark spots that are usually spattered around the deck. This condition happened a couple of years before when a contract required me to operate at idle for nearly 24 hrs straight.

What I did notice, in addition to the smoke, (white) was black goo oozing out of the exhaust at a clamp joint. Of course it was running on to the fixed manifold and burning off. Additionally I have noticed oil stains around the air box covers.

My questions are 1. is this normal because of the low RPMs and the result of a failed seal at the exhaust joint; 2. Is this the result of a potentially larger problem brewing...or already brewed.

I have included a couple of photos to highlight where the goo was oozing from, a photo of the engine and a photo of the blower as I was told the blower gasket could be blown which would cause the air-box leak. On the blower photo you can see a oil stain in the lower left hand corner of the photo. The air-box photo is not that great but you can see some staining.

Any experience or insight would be greatly appreciated

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Re: 671 Detroit Oil Leaks

01/25/2011 1:47 AM

Pretty, pretty clean, don't see anything unusual. Rule of thumb using wagon talk; overload the wagon and don't spare the horses. Don't baby it make it work WORK IT.

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Re: 671 Detroit Oil Leaks

01/25/2011 7:27 AM

I'm not a mechanical wiz on these, but i did send your posting to someone savvy with Detroits - maybe he can add value for your questions & comments.

I was a user of Detroits & other industrial & highway diesels, and can say with some clarity that Detroits are widely known to "throw" oil and have seeps - they do sling it more than say a Cummins, Cat, or Perkins...

I also know first-hand you can't "lope" a Detroit - you've got to stay high with the RPM's and run 'em - that's what they're built for....they don't have torque on the low-side at all...they are Screamers

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01/25/2011 11:39 PM

As a boat captain I operated a 46' sport fisherman for a number of years in the Gulf of Mexico.. Had twin 671 Detroit's. Your issues sounded pretty close to what I had other than the smoking issues. Of course I had two speeds warming up at the dock and cocked in the corner as the boss was always in a hurry for me to get somewhere so he could play. One thing that they did do was leak oil so we never had to worry about rust and they always started first time everytime.. This isn't much but hope it makes you feel a little better.. Good Luck.

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Re: 671 Detroit Oil Leaks

01/26/2011 10:13 PM

Sounds like the marine experience is similar to the over-the-road truck experience. As a member of an antique truck club (ATHS) I saw a cartoon in the Northeast Ohio Chapter newsletter some years ago.

It showed a mechanic adding oil to a Detroit Diesel, and was labelled Continuous Oil Change!

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Re: 671 Detroit Oil Leaks

01/28/2011 12:21 AM

Sounds like some trucks I worked around. Low speed work, idling a lot. Basically never came up to temp. We went as hot as we could on thermostats to get them to at least be warm. I always figured a diesel was like a 2-stroke motor, work'em work'em hard and they're happy critters.

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Re: 671 Detroit Oil Leaks

01/28/2011 11:01 AM

Thanks to everyone who posted a reply. Looks like I'm a bit too OCD with the cleanliness, to me she is filthy; I worked too late in the season and it was too cold to give her a good shampoo and pressure wash. The leaking still bothers me some because it seems to be on the rise. I look forward to the response from CUTiger's expert. Thanks all for the encouragement.

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