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How to Test Signals in Modbus to Profibus Converter

02/07/2011 1:45 AM

Hi all this is my first question here, sorry the title may be a little confusing

We have purchased a 3.3KV panel for a project. Its a single incomer and a single outgoing feeder. The thing is that the client requires Schneider parts itself and the Schneider vendor could only provide Mod bus communication with the panel. So in order to connect to a system that uses profibus we used a mod bus to profibus converter.

Now the problem is we need to test the panel to see if it works. The communication part shall be checked by our instrumentation department. They will check if communication happens properly.

We have placed a couple of relays on the panel with is used for protection and other functions. The relays are pretty expensive with lots of functions. We wanted to see if the signals for the same can be received while we test.

When we tested our normal 525V intelligent panel, the PLC person came up and installed the Siemens software to test the functions of the intelligent module and we could see the proper functioning, This was easy

In this case the Schneider panel uses mod bus so the panel software should use mod bus communication as well, but since we need to test the signals through profibus we are in a fix and don't know how to do it. The vendor doesn't seem to be too fluent on his own product and cannot give us an answer.

Basically we need to test the relay through profibus. All the protection functions and other extra's should be testable through profibus. The panels primary mode of communication is mod bus. We have used a converter to convert the same to profibus (the converter is provided by a 3rd party selected by the Schneider vendor). How can we do this since testing is normally done through a hardware like a laptop or a PC.

Thanking You

Srikanth U.K.

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Re: How to Test Signals in Modbus to Profibus Converter

02/07/2011 5:21 PM

Have you looked on Google? I found several sites and depending on the manufacturer of the bridge some offer software downloads. Nearly all listed recommended software.

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Re: How to Test Signals in Modbus to Profibus Converter

02/07/2011 9:49 PM

Take a look at

http://www.hms.se/products/products.asp?PID=102&ProductType=Master%20Simulator

Profibus-DP/DPV1
The Master Simulator is an easy to use tool to test the Profibus functionality of any fieldbus device. Two versions are available, one basic version for Profibus-DP only, and a full version for both Profibus-DP and DPV1. The automatic Slave identification functionality permitts communication to almost any Profibus slave device even if the normally required GSD file is not available. So it is possible, to initialize a slave device step by step and finally read or write the I/O data. Especially during setup and maintenance, where usually the GSD files of several manufacturers are not available, the Master Simulator has proven its concept and pays off shortly. The Master Simulator also permitts the address assignment of the Profibus slaves via the bus and to display and analyse diagnostic messages of Profibus slaves on the screen.
The connection to the Profibus interface of the slave device is made via an RS-232 to Profibus converter, which is built-in into a small D-SUB connector housing. This converter is connected to the PC´s COM-Port via a serial connection cable, which is also included in the scope of delivery.

or

http://www.procentec.com/proficaptain/

ProfiCaptain is a PC based PROFIBUS DP master that has been designed for applications like: I/O tests, commissioning, parameterization and demonstrations. It fills the gaps that other products leave open and makes working with PROFIBUS a lot easier, faster and more fun.

Imagine having fun while testing your panels!

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Re: How to Test Signals in Modbus to Profibus Converter

02/07/2011 10:54 PM

you might want to consider installing a modbus communication card into your PLC rack. Prosoft is a company that has supplied modbus comm cards to me before all be it for a rockwell allen bradly plc.

Something to remember is that siemens products (profibus from memory) generally like to invert the reading and writing of registers as compared to most comms protocols.

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Re: How to Test Signals in Modbus to Profibus Converter

02/08/2011 4:52 PM

Hehe

Something to remember is that siemens products (profibus from memory) generally like to invert the reading and writing of registers as compared to most comms protocols.

I got involved with that problem working with a French engineer installing a third PLC in our plant. We had problems with verbal communication never mind ModBus communication. He was using PL7 while I was using ModSoft.
Once we realised the register reversal he set to and reversed all the info he sent to me, unfortunately I'd had the same idea and reversed every thing I sent to him. Total chaos ensued.

We both got very drunk that night (Hic)

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