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ASME PTC 19.3 TW 2010,Thermowells Performance test code

03/16/2011 8:36 AM

ASME PTC 19.3 was originally published in 1974 mostly based on Murdock's paper published in 1959.

In no more than three pages this standard used to give a method to determine the calculation of vortex shedding frequency(wake frequency),natural frequency of thermowell,calculating the maximum external pressure a thermowell can withstand and the maximum length of the thermowell.All this was based on a given process condition.

The recommendation was to keep the ratio of vortex shedding freqency to the natural freqency to be < 0.8 .

The new standard is more than thirty pages long and seems to be very restrictive .

Only under certain conditions can the wake frequency be 0.8 times the natural freqency.Atleast in my experience it forces the ratio to be < 0.4. in most cases

Also the use of "velocity collars" in the nozzle is not recognized.

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This results in reducing the insertion length of the thermowell in the process stream and /or make the thermowell beefier(stout) sacrificing good response.

I would like to know the experience of our readers regarding this.

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Re: ASME PTC 19.3 TW 2010,Thermowells Performance test code

03/18/2011 3:27 PM

You can read an opinion on velocity collars on Emerson's "Process Experts" web site,

http://www.emersonprocessxperts.com/

Scroll down to the 3rd article, Velocity Collars are Not the Answer to Thermowell Resonance.

I suspect that prevention of breakage and the resulting loss of integrity was the thrust for the new standard, but that's speculation on my part.

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Re: ASME PTC 19.3 TW 2010,Thermowells Performance test code

04/20/2016 12:05 PM

The revised PTC 19.3 TW-2010 was revised due to a thermowell failure at a nuke palnt in 1985 that shut the plant down for 15 years. The thermowell passed the 1974 version of the code.

The new code takes into account the lift and drag forces on a thermowell and it must meet certain criteria to use 0.8 as the critical factor. The in-line resonance band is a concern when the thermowell and flow properties calculate that the well will be in this area because of the fluid velocity. The equations provide the criteria for determining this resonance affect.

As for velocity collars - There have been several finite analysis calculations run and they have determined that, unless it is a tight fit, velocity collars still allow the thermowell to vibrate sufficiently enough to cause a failure. For best results, it is better to calculate the insertion length of the thermowell from the unsupported length. As a company, many of our customers require the wake frequency calculation to be performed on all thermowells, not just those in high energy systems.

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