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Ground DC Batteries

07/04/2011 5:52 PM

Why should you ground an engine starting batterie? Aren't you asking for galvanic corrosion?

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07/04/2011 6:58 PM

Taking the risk of being not qualified too, I understand that the answer also lies in the concept of the starter motor. Usually one polarity end is grounded. And yes, this leads to a sort of "corrosion" called electrolysis when exposed to an electrolytic medium. In ships and metal boats this problem is known and often bypassed with a galvanic isolated starter motor.

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07/04/2011 8:07 PM

Sorry if I offended anyone. I've been studying galvanic corresion for someone and it appears to be prevelant on shore power because of disimular metals. I've read just about everything I can get my hands on but don't feel all the answers are yet there. Isolation transformers seem to be the answer in terms of safety and a corrosion deterent and realizing that many engines have a common negative ground it seems an invitation to galvanic action.

I appreciate the input and haven't heard of anyone putting a GI on the starter but I will certainly research it.

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07/05/2011 7:47 PM

You certainly didn't offend me. To make a good start try to find the galvanic table.

Materials interchange partly if elements of a different galvanic number are used. Certain alliances (like some stainless steels) tend to disintegrate in specific media.

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07/04/2011 11:32 PM

Should the battery -ve terminal,generator frame and generator be connected to the same earth electrode?.

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07/05/2011 3:17 AM

No just to the frame of the generator. But by virtue of the generator frame being earthed the battery is indirectly earthed. There is no need for a direct connection.

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07/05/2011 3:24 AM

As regards galvanic corrosion, if you look in to automotive history it was common to ground the +ve. Around the late 50's early 60's this was changed to -ve grounding, mainly due to people getting fed up with there cars falling apart with rust caused by galvanic action.

I've just changed a 1953 Ford 100E Popular to -ve ground.

Mid 70's people in the UK started buying cheap Japanese cars so it didn't matter what grounding they had they just fell apart anyway!

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07/05/2011 9:01 AM

So Tony are you saying that grounding the negative will not create galvanic corrosion?

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07/05/2011 10:01 AM

I didn't say it stopped it but it reduced it considerably. Some motor manufacturers were dead against it apparently. Ford from what I can gather/remember being amongst the forefront. Lucas Industries finally pushed it through, again from what I can remember.

This isn't something I've looked at in 30 some years since I was in collage.

I think it was covered in test methods and reliability in our course.

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