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Gasket Effect In Piping Stress Analysis

08/27/2011 8:39 AM

How is a gasket considered in the Piping stress analysis?

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Re: Gasket Effect In Piping Stress Analysis

08/27/2011 11:40 AM

By pretending its not there....

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08/27/2011 12:14 PM

"By pretending its not there...."

That's the very thing that puts them into analysis. Gaskets have feelings too.

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08/27/2011 10:04 PM

Its considered in the normal way. Why? How do you want to considerer a gasket?

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08/28/2011 7:46 PM

To be familiar with the effect of gasket into flange stress analysis (especially at those nonstandard flanges), please refer to Appendix 2 of ASME VIII, Div. 1:

Gasket Factor, m can be obtained from ASME, Section VIII, Div. 1, [Table 2-5.1], shall be used to calculate the Total joint-contact surface compression load, Hp =2b * 3.14 G m P

● Also, Min. Seating Stress, y of gasket shall be used in calculating the Min. required bolt load for gasket seating, Wm2 = 3.14 b G y

● In addition that Diameter at location of gasket load reaction, G [which depends on Effective gasket seating width, b = 0.5 * SQRT (bo)] shall be used in calculating:

- Total hydrostatic end force, H= 0.785 G^2 P [Appendix 2-3]

- Total joint-contact surface compression load, Hp = 2b *3.14 G m P

- Min. required bolt load for gasket seating, Wm2 = 3.14 b G y

Which shall be used in calculation of Bolt loading and size of bolts needed to determine the Total flange moment for bolt-up condition (Gasket condition).

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08/30/2011 9:24 AM

Flange joints with gaskets are considered as rigid as pipe in calculating the stresses.

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Re: Gasket Effect In Piping Stress Analysis

09/26/2011 4:00 AM

Thanks all,

I am in a conclution that no need to consider the gasket compressibilty effect in pipe stress analysis at high temperature.May be because during the design phase of flange joint we are considering the required bolt load is the highest of bolt load required at these two.

1 operating conditions.

2.Installation .

So means no more futher compression of gasket at high temp.Also I asked the same question in Inetrgraph CAESER-II Forum too, the respose was caser -II also not considering any such gasket effect.

Thereby considering flange joint as rigid in the analysis will give reliable results.

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10/08/2014 11:03 PM

Subsequent to Diameter of Gasket load reaction, G, appreciate if someone can let me know the reason of multiply by 2 for both gasket's width and bo as to determine the G value. What is the original formula? Is that:-

G= Gasket ID + (2 x gasket width) - (2 x bo)

As an example, in "guidebook for the design of ASME section VIII pressure vessel", chapter 4, example 4.5:-

It was given that, G = 13.75 + (2 x 1) - (2 x 0.3535)

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Re: Gasket Effect In Piping Stress Analysis

03/03/2015 1:26 AM

Dear All,

Nice to meet you all.

I do agree that we consider gasket as a part of flange itself while modelling considering it's not there, it being a packing element.

Whereas we do take care of flange leakage by Kellogg's method/NC 3658/ASME Sec VIII methods by checking the bending stresses at the flanges which could inturn lead to damaging effects on gaskets. Based upon Axial stresses & Bending Moments.

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Amit Dewan

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