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Nitriding Drive Shaft

10/13/2011 2:32 AM

Would any one know if there is any advantage in nitriding en24t? Yes I know it is not a nitriding steel but I have made some driveshafts from en24t and it has been suggested that I nitride them to improve the strength, but it might also make them brittle. Any suggestions? The shaft is 700 mm long 45 mm od and the flange at the end 140 mm od and 8 mm thick.

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Re: Drive shaft

10/13/2011 2:49 AM

One advantage of trying to nitride a non-nitriding steel could be the exploration into the unknown...Go west, young man!

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Re: Nitriding Drive Shaft

10/13/2011 10:28 PM

I was always under the impression that nitriding was to harden the surface, not make the steel 'stronger.'

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Re: Nitriding Drive Shaft

10/13/2011 11:16 PM

I was under the assumption that most steels are able to be nitride treated to add strength to the surface and to stress relieve the part I don't know your application for your drive shaft. how much horsepower will it need to withstand for your application.We nitride all of our crankshafts and most of our blocks we add surface hardness to the cylinder walls for wear characteristic. As I see it, I don't think you should have a problem with nitriding your drive shaft.Duke

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Re: Nitriding Drive Shaft

10/14/2011 5:44 AM

Nitriding is normally done for surface hardening of the shafts/rods and it helps in reducing wear in the sealing areas particularly in reciprocating machines. Piston rods which are generally made from EN41B, without nitriding maximum surface hardness achieved with heat treatment is only 36to 40 HRC while with Nitriding hardness achieved is of the range of 55 to 60 HRC. Thus by nitriding, core stregnth remains as of parent material while surface hardness can be enhanced.

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Re: Nitriding Drive Shaft

10/14/2011 5:44 AM

Nitriding is a surface hardening operation. It will not add any strength to your shaft in terms of being able to handle more torque and prevent it from either snpping or twisting wrong.

The steel alloy you use will determine its torque handling capacity. Hardening the whole shaft (in depth) is another story and I don't know if this alloy needs or can be hardened in depth.

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Re: Nitriding Drive Shaft

10/16/2011 7:23 AM

The nitriding use -is for hardening the surface,and preventing cracks on the surface of any shaft !! As so nitriding your shaft,especiallyb the Cardanne section - is a good idea

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10/17/2011 6:05 PM

Nitriding an axle would likely keep it from torsionally loading as much, but you really don't have any wear surfaces that would benefit from it that I can see. My sense is that having a harder (i.e., more brittle) surface may lead to micro circumferential cracks that would lead to quicker ultimate failure then without the treatment.

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