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Inverter TIG Welders and Generators

10/23/2011 5:25 PM

Has anyone got any experience of off-grid welding using scratch start TIG and a 2-3 kVA generator? I'm looking at options for patching up my old vehicles- could I get away with a 2 kVA generator on 2mm mild steel- would it wreck the inverter, the generator or both, or would I just get lousy welds? A more general question- how do the cheap inverters on eBay actually work? AIUI, they rectify the mains input, then do the voltage transforming at high frequency... or have I missed the point? Thanks for any help.

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Re: Inverter TIG Welders and Generators

10/25/2011 3:05 PM

Brian,

For what it's worth.......I recently purchased a generator/welder, 3KVA and 50amp and up DC welder for an outside railing repair job at a local apartment complex. I found that some of the railings were about 1/16" tubing. I already owned a small 115 volt MIG welder, and was able to run it successfully off of the AC outlets on the unit. Maybe it would be worthwhile to do something similar what I spell out here makes any sense at all. It sure worked for me and made the job easier.

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Re: Inverter TIG Welders and Generators

10/29/2011 12:33 PM

You need to realize what the welder can do, current control wise.

Since you have a 2-3 KVA generator, this represents 1.4 to 2.1 KW -- therefore You need to know what is the GAP voltage of the plasma welding the such 2 mm, then you calculate the current that in this case you assume around 85 % of the max KW .

The plasma voltage if you are careful and keep a constant low voltage ( like 18 volts) then the current setting should be:

(1400 watts *0.85 ) / 18 volts = 66 amps -- you can do the other higher generator power limits.

NOW IF YOU DO NOT KNOW the plasma voltage You can measure it with you have some help.

You need a resistor (43 k to 51 K, 1/4 or 1/2 watt or more) and capacitor ( 10 micro farads at 2 X the open voltage of the welder ~ 40 to 60 volts ) and a digital voltmeter -- connect the resistor to the ROD holder and the capacitor to the grounded connected and tie the other end ( positive) to the resistor together -- the digital voltmeter there and the ground.

Make a plasma and keep the plasma going for about 5 seconds and when the voltage stabilizes read it and record for future use to know what to do.

You can move the electrode up / down and record those plasma voltage that You can use later to set the currents to be always at a power level limited by the power source .

I am assuming that you are using DC current.

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