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Maximum Cold Bend Angle

04/25/2007 8:35 AM

I am doing a Pipeline Design and have just finished calculating the Minimum Field bend Radius.

I want to know how this translates to maximum field bend angle. That is how do I use this minimum field bend radius to calculate the maximum Field(cold) bend angle?

Thanks

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#1

Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

04/26/2007 7:29 AM

maximum bend angle = 180 degre

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

02/06/2009 6:02 AM

an application in my industry calls for 90 degree bend of 1" sch.80 pipe &

as we know a steel pipe can be bent for 90 degree,but wht is the minimum radius need to be maintained at the bend and why is it so, is there any stand or formula govening that minimum radius at bend??

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

08/04/2010 1:23 AM

an application in my industry calls for 90 degree bend of 1" sch.80 pipe & as we know a steel pipe can be bent for 90 degree,but wht is the minimum radius need to be maintained at the bend and why is it so, is there any stand or formula govening that minimum radius at bend??

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

01/19/2011 11:51 PM

The cold bend have a parameter, except a maximum radius, what is other parameter?

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

04/26/2007 7:43 AM

Cold bends are normally within 13 Deg. and 16 Deg.

What I want to know is whether there is a relationship between minimum Elastic bend Radius and the angle (angle after which a pipe can no longer be bent using cold bending method, but Hot Induction Bending).

Minimum Elastic bend Radius is given by R=ED/2Sa

Where E =Youngs modulus of Elasticity

D = Diameter of pipe

Sa = Longitudinal Stress allowed for bending

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#3
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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

04/26/2007 11:37 AM

It is a lot more involved than that and your question doesn't include sufficient information to provide more than general answers.

Whether or not the pipe can be bent to the desired radius (or angle) depends on the material, diameter, wall thickness, and whether or not some material (dry sand or other temporary filling material) is used to prevent collapse or flattening. When pipe or tube is bent, the outer wall is stretched and the inner compressed and as a result of those opposite and unequal stresses, the pipe or tube tends to flatten or collapse regardless of whether it is done cold or hot.

The safe minimum radius for a given diameter, material, and method of bending depends primarily on the pipe wall thickness. As a general rule, standard weight wrought iron or steel pipe can readily be bent to a radius equal to 3.5 - 4 times the nominal pipe diameter. However, that minimum will vary depending upon the bending method employed and the pipe wall thickness.

A general rule for finding the length of pipe section in the bend is to multiply the radius of the bend by the included angle then multiply that product by the constant 0.01745. The result is the length of the curved section.

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

04/27/2007 5:15 AM

Thanks So much for your contribution.

The Pipe is a 36" pipe, Wall thickness is 12.7mm.

In some previous projects that I participated in, we have always adopted 15 Deg. and below as Field bends or Natural bends and above 15 Deg. we have always recommended Hot Induction bends (3D or 5D, as the case may be).

I have never known the basis for this choice of angles. I have always tried to find answers, but I've never gotten the right sources of information. If I can even have recommendation of a book or any of the international standards that give a good explanation (Elastic Bend Radius, Field Bend angles, Induction Bends, etc) I'll appreciate it.

But at the moment, this is my dilema:

I have already calculated the Minimum Elastic Bend radius and got 2160m (which is about 60D). So what I really want to know is how to determine the maximum angle for which field (cold) bends is no more recommended for this pipeline (is it 13 Deg. or 14 or 15 and why).

Some of the pipeline Data includes:

Operating Temperature = 50 Deg.C

Ambient/Installation Temp. = 25 Deg.C

Design Pressure = 1450 psig

Steel Class = API 5L X65

SMYS = 4.48E+08 N/m2

Modulus of Elasticity E = 2.01E+11 N/m2

Coeff. of Linear expansivity e = 1.17E-05 /deg.C

Thanks so much in anticipation.

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#5
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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

07/17/2008 8:36 AM

The cold bend calculation can be done like this,

Say,

L= the length of the pipe usually 12m

a= the tangent length (the straight length to be provided at the end of pipe to facilitate the welding with the main line) usually 1.5m

r= the bend radius (as in your case it is 60D)

so,

Bend angle=[(L-2a) x 180]/[r*3.142]

180/3.142 gives the angle in degrees

One thing I did not get is how did u fixed the allowable bending stress??? what is the criteria to limit it?? any reference??

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

09/28/2008 9:00 PM

Hi

I am presently Involved in the design for 10", A105, Seamless Sch 160 cross country pipeline. The Pipeline is routed parrallel to an existing road. At one stretch the road takes a bend whoose bending raidous is around 705 M and the included angle is 16.68deg.

In terms of Pipe line diameter the bend radious is around 277D. Can anyone help me whether this bend can be negotiated with natural elastic bend while laying itself without requiring any plastic cold bening. Is there any calc to justify the design?

Thanks in advance

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Sanjai.N

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#7
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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

10/01/2008 8:36 PM

Hi

From the Pipeline Rules of Thumb Handbook, The pipe can be considered as Cantileaver Beam with end load - which is possibly the worst loading sceanarieo - and arrived at the Minimum Elastic Cold bend radious allowed with in the code allowable stress. This is the bend radious the pipe can naturally take without entering in to the plastic state.

R= 3EI / (2ZSa)

R= Min. Bend Radius-----------------------------in

E= Modulus of elasticity 29x10^6 ----------------lb/in^2

I = Moment of Inertia = 0.0491(D^4 - d^4) ------ in^4

Z = Section modulus = 0.0982(D^4 - d^4) / D ---in^3

Sa= Allowable stress in PSI as per code. Yield stress factor F=0.5 for Gasline Type C consturction as per ANSI B31.8 (stringent) or Yield stress factor F=0.72 for liquid transportation as per ANSI B31.4 can be used to arrive Allowable stress.

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

06/06/2009 7:02 AM

Hi! Iam doing the Bend calculation for the Onshore under ground pipeline project.

My Question is Wat factor i want to consider to calculate the bend angle or arc Length for Elastic bend, 5D hot Induction Bend & Field Cold bend? What data i want to refer to calculate for this? Is there any formula or we have to calculate based on the thumb rule? iam fresh in this area. please advise.

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

06/07/2009 9:52 AM

Hi! Iam doing the Bend calculation for the Onshore under ground pipeline project.

My Question is Wat factor i want to consider to calculate the bend angle or arc Length for Elastic bend, 5D hot Induction Bend & Field Cold bend? What data i want to refer to calculate for this? Is there any formula or we have to calculate based on the thumb rule? iam fresh in this area. please advise.

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#19
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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

07/08/2016 3:23 AM

Thank You for being an active contributor and helping people.

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

10/10/2008 7:33 PM

For steel pipe 30"NPS 20 SCH,L= the length of the pipe 12m

a= the tangent length (the straight length to be provided at the end of pipe to facilitate the welding with the main line) 2m(minimum)

r= the bend radius is 40D

so,

My Question is Wat factor i want to consider to calculate the bend angle or arc Length? What data i want to refer to calculate this...can u plz tell me......this is mail id kannapiran.mech@gmail.com...

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

10/28/2010 5:27 AM

have you heard about formulae for calculating length of chord in a circle???

l= (pi*r*theta)/180

Hope this will be informative to you

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#12
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Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

12/09/2009 10:06 AM

Did you find a good answer to your question?

I have the same question ? ( 8" wt 0.322 API 5L X 42)

can you help me ?

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#13

Re: Maximum Cold Bend angle

05/12/2010 4:45 AM

Dear David,

I am doing Pipeline project. i need your help (sample calculation) for the following.

Upheaval Buckling

Anchor Flange Force calculation

Pipeline floatation/Buoyancy Calculation

Pipeline/Piping Design Basis

Min & Max Elastic bend Radius Calculation

Min Thickness of Road Crossing Casing Pipes

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#17

Re: Maximum Cold Bend Angle

07/17/2012 10:53 AM

In retrospect and with more maturity in Pipeline Designs, I have found out that the maximum Cold (Field) Bend Angles are not fixed for all pipelines, but are dependent on the Line Pipe Length, the Bend Radius which is determined from the codes (ASME B31.8 or B31.4 or any other).

Hence 2226 contribution to the thread is the best answer to my earlier question.

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Re: Maximum Cold Bend Angle

07/23/2012 4:55 AM

Thank u....

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