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Election 'Pollutions"

12/10/2011 4:44 AM

Auto rickshaws, mounted with loud speakers, shouting slogans and songs to the highest pitch possible, are used for election propaganda in our area. They give same messages again and again. This noise is the cause of pain and problems to voters, particularly sick, hospitalized, and senior citizens. Local Police have been given decibel measuring device, but they are generally reluctant to use it, as they do not want 'law and order' on this account.

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1) Is there any simple device to measure noise level, to prove in court of law ?

2) Could repeated stereo type messages, be called as pollution-though given in lower pitch level, and if yes can most of the TV ads be called as pollution?

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12/10/2011 11:14 AM

Certainly this is a form of sound pollution, but getting the police or the courts involved is not the way to solve this. Contact your local press or start your own local movement that politicians using this tactic will not be voted into office. Nothing persuades a politician that a tactic is a bad approach more than failure in office. Public comedic ridicule reasonably well too. But trying to get bureaucrats to turn on their potential or actual boss is an exercise in futility.

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12/10/2011 11:16 PM

Dear Sir!

You are correct but "local press" here [I guess the poster is from Bharat-Pakistan-Bangla Desh] is after Ads - Most important news may get some space on front page;

such trivial problems may not get any response. Anyhow should be tried.

And the trend of public at home is as fair as the the announcements by Rikshas. If I am obeying the norms of life the neighborer [I am also from them] will not be.

Till we start at home to listen TV at a low volume [for example] and consistant on it the conditions may be improved.

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12/10/2011 11:57 PM

The "local press" is always looking for more advertisement revenue. Its the only way they can survive. My point with contacting the press was not to try and shift the noise level responsibility to the press. For obvious reasons the press will not care or they will believe they will make more money by there being vocal conflict. My point was to use the press as a conduit for your opinion not as a guardian of the peace. This is where a reasoned argument against shouting can be soundly made. If your opinion draws more readers to the local press, they'll get more revenue.

I believe that this is just a phase of political action that you're going through. Many decades ago when mobile loudspeakers were first produced, politicians here did the exact same thing. Eventually some shrewd politicians pointed out that there opponents were the ones with the megaphones in an act of desperation. Only fools shout at people that don't want to listen. Do you want to elect a fool?

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12/11/2011 4:11 AM

"Do you want to elect a fool?" Do we really have a choice?

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12/11/2011 10:06 PM

The fact in India and its neighbours is that there is no choice in elections. All politicians except a few are corrupt. Good guys get assassinated if they try to do good things because extremists do not like them. They even bring foreign influence to achieve their goals by selling their countryman's reputation and calling it "sovereignty of a community(majority)or nation". Funny people!. Those(foreigners) who fish in troubled waters are happy.

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12/11/2011 11:36 AM

Thanks for your good advice.

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12/10/2011 11:59 AM

Perhaps this an opportunity to move this technology forward...

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-noise-cancellation.htm

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12/11/2011 12:42 AM

This is an "indian disease" found in Srilanka too. Whenever a wedding/political meeting takes place (or victory in a cricket match is announced) they light fire-crackers disturbing the public living nearby. Even loud music is played till about 11pm. Announcements for political meetings are made on mobile vehicles. Disturbing noise from defective(exhaust system) cars ,trishaws and motor cycle too disturb peace. Noise level depends on type and condition of engine too whether petrol/diesel/2stroke/4stroke. Police won't check because politicians don't want to control these and get bad name from few rich who contribute for election campaign.

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12/11/2011 4:23 AM

1) Is there any simple device to measure noise level, to prove in court of law ?

Sound level (pressure) meters are readily obtainable and are not expensive. To prove anything in a court of law you need to have laws in the first place. Are there any noise abatement laws at your locale? If there were then the measurements would need to be made with an instrument that has been calibrated at a recognised calibration facility and independently and competently performed and verified for the data to be admissible and actionable.

2) Could repeated stereo type messages, be called as pollution-though given in lower pitch level, and if yes can most of the TV ads be called as pollution?

You have the power to lower the volume on your TV. So probably not really pollution, though the health impact of exposure to TV advertisement is widely known on an experiential level. It drives me livid.

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12/11/2011 5:35 AM

Get a pickax handle and adjust the volume.I had occasion to turn off a persistent alarm on a factory close to where I live which went off at the slightest puff of wind,after talking to the manager,who wasn't bothered even though he was the key holder but would never turn up when called by the police, and getting no satisfaction from the police I turned to the only friend I could, Mr sledgehammer, one bash and the box fell silent and on the floor.

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12/11/2011 7:24 PM

Build a case where they are breaking the law. Get a list of times when you have called the police in. Only then should you break the law in order to get arrested...at which time you can argue your point in front of a magistrate. You will lose, but if enough people do this you will be a force for change.

I found that foam ear plugs were my friend the last time I visited Naples. It was the persistent honking of horns for no apparent reason which made me purchase ear plugs. Usually only one was in at a time...the "road" side.

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12/12/2011 8:27 PM

What's wrong with horn honking?

Horn is an essential function in a road vehicle.

Vehicle must have Aircon, Horn and Brakes in that order of priority in order to ply the roads.

Tyre "chirping" techniques are also good to learn for alerting those other road users who don't heed the horn. Horn is often ignored. Amazing how quickly folk get out of the way when they hear the pre dispatch screech from an approaching vehicle. My old Cherokee did this nicely.

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12/13/2011 12:50 AM

In civilised societies horn is not required for humans. It may be used to drive away animals on the roads as seen in some third world countries. Some countries are like the "Planet of the apes" ruled by ugly people backed by USA,India,Japan China etc.

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12/13/2011 1:26 AM

Your point is??

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12/13/2011 6:15 AM

Civilised people will obey road rules,they won't run across the road at any point except at prescribed locations(zebra crossings),they won't allow pigs,dogs and cows roam along roads etc. The other side of the problem is the authorities do not think of pedestrians safety by providing zebra crossings, do not provide signal lights for pedestrians to cross roads,do not provide wide enough walkways(pavements),lighting, not banning vehicles emitting excessive smoke and noise etc .Democracy should not be given to uncivilised societies. Mahatma Ghandhi studied in UK where britishers practice democracy and asked it for indians without thinking how will they make use or interpret democracy(wish of the majority). In multi racial countries the major community treats other smaller communities as slaves or "hostage for life" with UN,UK,USA,Japan,China,India etc approving as "democracy", "internal affair", "sovereignty" and forcing racial/religious minorities to "negotiate" for human rights which should be guaranteed in constitution of every state as well as by the UN. Employers of some private companies escape without paying terminal benefits like pension or provident fund to employees as state do not find fault with rich people because they contribute for election campaign of politicians. Some private companies get "closed down" and say "no money" or "bankrupt". In 1920s or 30s in Srilanka a senior politician belonging to the minority Tamil community observed "low quality people will come to power" if "universal franchaise" was granted and it happened in 1948,1956,1977 on wards without a turn-back. They can pass any "draconian law" to kill or kidnap people without "court order" or "fair trial". They even say if somebody is missing "he or she might have died".

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12/11/2011 7:40 PM

We had cars here doing that in the 1950s (as seen in the movie Back to the Future). I assume it was outlawed then because I haven't seen it since. I'm glad of that. I wish you a lot of luck.

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12/13/2011 12:12 AM

It's all about survival in the jungle....

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12/12/2011 11:29 AM

Having spent some of my misspent youth in electronic warfare, my sentiment would be to reply in kind. Hook up a microphone to a large loudspeaker and blast the driver with his own message at a painful level. Perhaps he will go elsewhere. Perhaps your system will experience feedback and make shrill noises, which may also discourage the driver. If the police show up, as a result of many complaints, turn off your system and let the driver get the blame. Please excuse my slipping into a previous, militant frame of mind.

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12/12/2011 12:25 PM

I know what you mean!

Although disturbing, obnoxious communication isn't always loud. We experience this here in the U.S.A. with a media that is intent upon ramming an extremely dysfunctional government administration down our throats too. This is done by TV, newsprint and the internet. They tell us lies and expect us to believe them, when what they say doesn't match what they do. The bad part is that we have a large number in our society that will trade their long-term freedom for cup of pottage (short-term gain).

The best way to combat it is to just not subscribe to any of those media sources. The only problem is that one can hardly get away from it because it is turned on in many restaurants or other places of business.

As far as getting rid of your kind of obnoxious noise; notify the ones responsible that you will not support them and you will also tell everyone you know not to support them either until they change their way of getting their message out.

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12/13/2011 7:53 AM

The police are not going to go after thier "Boss" or future boss!

Here they use truck with 8, 10 huge speakers and a caravan behind. Loudest music, best free hats & tee shirts win!

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