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2003 Chevy Silverado Extreme Duty

01/24/2012 12:26 PM

On my last hunting trip, I found myself in the deep woods and then in deep water. I had to travel about 100 yards where the road was completely underwater. For about 3 truck lengths, the water got to about half way up the door. (4 wheel drive truck of course).

The truck handled it like a pro, no issues.

When I returned to work, I was talking to a co-worker about my trip. He said I now need to change the tranmission fluid and differental fluid because the high water could have entered a "vent" in both.

I'm not against changing the fluid, always a good idea when you plan to keep your truck, but is my co-worker telling me the truth? Is there "vent" in my transmission I need to worry about?

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado extrem duty

01/24/2012 12:34 PM

Very likely you have a vent hose on both differentials and the manual tranny. Never had an auto.

They have cheesy check valves, if they are like my old Chevy 4X4.

I ran extended hoses from all of them to some point higher than water would ever see. I ran mine through 3 feet of water after that with no problems.

Definately check the fluids. Remember these are probably hot when you drive into the water and will cool quickly when submerged, sucking water in as the air contracts.

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado extrem duty

01/24/2012 12:44 PM

Thanks Lyn, next oil change I'll have them pull the stick.

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01/24/2012 12:46 PM

After running through that much water, I'd have all the fliuds checked.

Good Luck! Have fun.

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01/24/2012 10:56 PM

No, do it now. Water makes a poor lubricant and will quickly destroy your diff, xfer case, and trans. You may even have a little in your motor. I wouldn't even drive it out of my driveway until I replaced the fluids in everything.

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado extrem duty

01/24/2012 1:13 PM

Yes there is some type of vent or the heat generated would force fluid out the seals on the shafts.

I would check their levels. If they took on water the levels would be high. If a substantial amount of water got into either of the fluids. They would turn cloudy after driving any distance. As the gears would churn the water into small droplets and disperse it through out the fluid. If just a small amount got in heat generated in the device will evaporated it off.

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado Extreme Duty

01/24/2012 3:05 PM

The water will sink to the bottom of the differential and tranny. Loosen the drain plugs if they are at the lowest point, and let the water out. If the fluid is milky, change it and the tranny filter if it's automatic.

I think once the water mixes with oil, it doesn't separate out very well.

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01/24/2012 3:09 PM

If the water did not go over the door handles and you did not create a large ripple that would have gone higher than the door handles, you should be fine.

4X4 water traversal criteria is typically - door handles and below - good to go!

No I didn't just make that up - that was the common phrase back in the mid 70's during my "off roadin up to your pits in mud days...........HONEST

The gear case(s) vents are pretty good at keeping water out provided you don't go snorkeling.

Have the fluids checked for water contamination anyway just to be safe.

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01/24/2012 3:48 PM

Watched a guy drive his Scout into water until the hood was totally covered. Then it quit.

Somebody pulled him out. He fiddled with it for a while, finally got it to turn over and pumped all the water out of his engine. Dumped some gas into the carb and took off down the road. Don't know how far he got, but I'll bet it wasn't far.

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01/24/2012 3:54 PM

Yup, I've seen a few and done a few in my day.

Would not try it nowadays - trucks are too expensive and I'm too dang old

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01/24/2012 9:01 PM

I used to maintain a fleet of outboard powered boats. When we had a sinker, I would put the motors carb up and pour fuel through with the spark plugs out. The recommended drill is to rinse with alcohol to get the water out, then fuel to get the alcohol out. Then back on the boat and run the hell out of it to dry out the electric parts. We usually got another year or so after that. It was salt water, and those Mercs melted like sugar.

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado Extreme Duty

01/25/2012 2:38 AM

I have an '03 Silverado 2500 HD 4x4 quad cab, 8.1, Allison towing tranny, 80,000 miles. My advice is change all fluids. It is relatively cheap. Is part of normal maintenance.The next time you are sideways sliding in a muddy, snowy, waterhole, you will feel a lot better about getting a chance to get out.

Now what you didn't ask is brakes! I have 4 wheel disks. I replaced rotors 3 times now. The first two "GM" rotors exploded craters and then the pads were eaten. This was all four wheels. The third time I went after market, enameled slotted dimpled and all new mounting pieces. Particularly the pad carrier (the part the brake pads slide on). Brakes are great now, better than new. After market costs where cheaper and free shipping from California to New Jersey.

Next is to look at brake lines. I am 65 years old and never ever had a brake line burst. One did on this Silverado at 50,000 miles. Checking the internet I found that many other have had the line burst too. I had a GM dealer replace all lines with after market coated lines.

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado Extreme Duty

01/25/2012 4:34 AM

Yup, water gets into the drive train through the vents. Change the oil as soon as it is convenient to do so. It doesn't suck in litres of water. If you are worried that the lubricant is seriously compromised just feel the diff centres from time to time to see if they are real hot or not if they are running hard.

Some 4x4 vehicles have factory spec vent hoses that extend up high and dry with an airfilter on the end or into the air box. This is a common aftermarket augmentaton for off road vehicles that are frequently submerged and not factory equipped with the vent "snorkels"

Search for "diff vent" on the web. Loads of examples to learn from.

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01/25/2012 5:13 PM

I do not know if it is current SOP but in 1969 the US Army required us to repack all bearings after running in any water deeper than the center hub of that vehicle. Water will not only find it's way into the tranny and differential it also will seep into your U-joints and bearings as the seals on them are not designed to take much positive pressure inward. They are mostly to keep dirt and contaminants out at ambient pressure.

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01/25/2012 5:48 PM

Good thought. Especially if you have manual hubs with a big knob on each hubcap. That's another thing to leak.

My newer 4x4 (1985) had sealed hubs.

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01/27/2012 1:26 AM

Hot bearings literaly suck when the yare quenched in water after a drive.

Notorious for this were boat trailers that, after a drive to the launch ramp, would be submerged. Many a boat trailer has thrown a leg on the freeway after being immersed.

Universal joints are easy enough to repack in the field with a grease gun but stub axles....invest in someBearing Buddies

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Re: 2003 Chevy Silverado Extreme Duty

02/02/2012 11:17 AM

Older military off road vehicles had vents on all components. axles, transmission, transfer case, steering box, master cylinder, everything. All were vented to a common vent tube that ran the length of the truck. This was in turn vented to the air intake for the engine. There was a deep fordging kit available to extend the air intake and exhause to an area that was above windshield height.

Dump the fluids and be safe. You own that truck, not any of us. If there is water in a differential, it will start to pitt the bearings and gears. That damage will never go away. It will only get worse. Two years that howl from the rear end will be expensive to repair. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

If you plan on this type of endevors, think about extending the vents used on the truck. The factory uses rubber hoses. Just make up extentions out of more hose, or get commonly available brake lines and rout the lines together and bring them up behind the cab to bed area, Use the original vent(s) and enjoy yourself.

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