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Is this true?

01/25/2012 12:09 PM

I am just reproducing a mail that I got in my mail box below. I don't believe what is stated here- but thought will check with experts on CR4 site.

Can ELECTRICITY pass through Flash light of the Digital camera to your body??? Yes it is 100% true..!

This is a true incidence reported of a boy aged 19, who was studying in 1st year of engineering, who died in Keshvani Hospital, Mumbai. He was admitted in the Hospital as a burned patient. Reason ??????

This boy had gone to Amravati (a place located in State of Maharashtra ) on a study tour, on their return they were waiting at the railway station to catch the train. Many of them started taking pictures of their friends using "Mobile Phones" and / or "Digital Camera". One of them complained that, he was unable to capture the full group of friends in one frame in the Digicam.
This boy moved away to a distance to get the whole group.

He failed to notice that at an angle above his head, 40,000 volts electrical line was passing through.
As soon as he clicked the digital camera? 40,000 volt current passed through the camera flash light to his camera and then from his camera to his fingers & to his body. All this happened within a fraction of a second. His body was half burned.
They arranged for an ambulance & his burned body was brought to Keshavani Hospital, Mumbai.

For one & half days or so he was conscious & talking. Doctors did not have much hopes as there was a lot of complex issues in his body. and then He passed away later.


Now how many of us are aware about these technical threats & dangers? Even if we are, how many of us are adhering??


* Please avoid mobile phones on petrol outlets.
* Please avoid talking on mobile phones while driving.
* Change that "Chalta Hai Yaar Attitude".
* Please avoid talking on mobile phones while kept in charging mode without disconnecting from wall socket.
* Please do not keep mobile phones on your bed while charging and / on wooden furniture.
* Avoid using mobile phones / Digital cameras near high voltage electrical lines like in railway stations and avoid using flash.

I am unable to attach a picture of railway traction lines- that is all.

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Re: Is this true?

01/25/2012 12:25 PM

Sounds like an urban legend to me. Visible light has no effect on atmospheric conductivity AFAIK, because it falls in the class of 'non-ionizing radiation'. 40,000 volts may sound like a lot, but it will only arc a few inches - not 20 or more feet.

Always be suspicious of emails that begin with phrases like "100% true"

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01/25/2012 1:12 PM

It appears that Keshavani Hospital exists on the internet (nestled within many of the repeated versions of this story), but nowhere else.

I will be so bold as to brand it an internet hoax.

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01/25/2012 1:31 PM

This is one of those anecdotal stories that answering the question "Can this happen?" should be broken into at least two parts.

First, as presented is it at all possibly true, no matter how remotely possible, that the flash of a camera can cause a high voltage arc path to occur in air. Yes, it is conceivable that the momentary air ionization from the ultra-violet light from a xenon tube camera flash might provide that last little bit of trigger energy to cause a high voltage line to discharge through the camera. However, for this to happen there will have to be so many hidden, helping factors that I would expect the odds of this happening to be literally astronomical.

Second, something else might cause a photographer to be electrocuted that a witnessing layman might think that the camera's flash caused the discharge. This seems far more plausible to me. There may have been a thin wire dangling from the transmission line that the distracted photographer wandered into. The vaporization of this thin wire provided both the initial flash and an ionized gas path for further heavier current discharges. There might have also been a coincident lightening strike some where on the power line. These would still be extremely unlikely but still possible.

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01/25/2012 1:56 PM

Sounds like blue sky lightning....

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01/25/2012 7:50 PM

"Please avoid talking on mobile phones while driving." and cautions that might apply to use of a charger have nothing to do with the situation described in the story.

But petrol outlets and railway stations are places where stuff happens that you might want to photograph, especially in Mumbai. I guess I'm in a cynical mood... can't help wondering, who would benefit by scaring people, so they don't use their phones to take pictures at the train....

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01/26/2012 3:46 AM

I have some thing to share.I have witnessed ,a flash of spark stretch between a ODC* (over dimensional consignment) and 66 kv live conductor.Fortunately it got earthed through a metallic rod hanging on trolley and touching ground,creating a big path hole on road.But in the process all 64 tyres of the trolley got heated and were required to cooled by throwing buckets of water on them,which got converted in to steam,immediately.

This happened near Murtizpur (Maharashtra) and during summer and hot afternoon.

I remember I could see flash (bluish) in broad day light.

* We were transporting cement machinery to L&T Awarpur site.

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01/26/2012 4:39 PM

If he was within the danger zone , I believe 3.3m for 40KV, there is a good chance that 40Kv could arc across, not from the flash, but the camera being conductive and possibly he raised his hands.

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01/28/2012 7:58 AM

Absolutely unfounded.

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07/24/2012 3:07 PM

First off the 19 year old gentleman did not only move off to a distance he climb on top of a tank car. In doing so he may have close the distance the live wire needed to go to ground. The flash could have been just a coincidence. The arc could have set the flash off or at the moment of the arc he had his finger on the button. Muscle restriction do to the arc on the body setting it of.

There are plenty of stories out there about this incident. None of which I find credible. Most list it as a hoax. Either way there is no scientific data to support that light can conduct electricity.

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