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Building Maintenance - "Wall Dampness and Its Correction"

02/12/2012 12:28 AM

Hello everyone...........

Please suggest me: 1) How to correct "the dampness of wall (brick wall) surfaces(without direct seepage from the source) that cause to fall out of pop and painted surfaces.

2) How to correct the seepages from bath/toilet areas of top floor that causes dampness to ceilling surfaces of GL/bottom floor. Is there any possible treatment from negative side?

Please suggest....

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02/12/2012 12:48 AM

In general you should seal the outside boundary between your basement walls and soil. However, sometimes this is useless.

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02/12/2012 7:29 AM

1. Waterproofing/sealer...

2. What is the floor surface? tile? linoleum? concrete?

http://www.sealkrete.com/general_sk_faqs.htm

Here's some tips....Make sure surface to be treated is clean and dry....

Use several coats, allowing coats to dry completely in between applications....Take days if necessary....Each succeeding coat takes longer to dry...

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02/12/2012 10:14 AM

IF this wall dampness is occurring above ground, then there a number of clear waterproofing sealants commercially available that would prevent water and water vapor transmission through the brick and mortar.

IF this wall dampness is occurring below grade through a brick foundation wall, then you must excavate the the wall(s), prep clean them, and apply a very good commercial grade water proofing compound with a reinforcing fabric. Depending on the material, sometimes several coatings will have to be applied. A vast majority of these compounds are asphalt-based, whilst others are not.

In some instances you may have to install a new footing drain pipe (and clean washed stone , all wrapped in a filter fabric envelope) along the exterior edge of the foundation wall footing. Make sure this drainage pipe either daylights or ties into a drainage structure of some type, such as a catch basin either located in the street or on your property.

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02/12/2012 10:43 PM

Sometimes small hole develops inside the cancelled water lines pipes and water leaks through it. Use as built drawings ,identify the locations , rectify the pipe leak.

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02/13/2012 8:31 AM

I had the same recurrent seepage problems in my basement before, and was able to correct it cheaply and permanently. I raised and made sure the elevation of the surrounding soil along the perimeter of the house are about 6 inches higher (compacted), than any closest physical property. Then curved a slope outward, pitched downward to about 1 inch per foot away from my walls. Made sure that water always flow and being drained away from the house. I also made sure my rain gutters around the house are all in good order /repair.

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02/13/2012 10:47 AM

Insulate the pipes and ventilate the space if it is a condensation problem.

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02/13/2012 12:16 PM

If your "wall" issue is paint peeling/popping off (you stated that water seepage was not an issue), try to use Latex paint rather than oil-based- it "breathes". The earlier suggestion of sloped run-off and control of rain water flow and keep water away from the wall is also a great idea.

Although it will sound "strange"- Assuming that this issue is for below grade walls, another option is to slowly flood the area about 25-30 CM away from the wall (light flow through perforated / mesh "hose" for about a day or two) and then insert corrugated fiberglass panels in the softened, muddy earth as close to the wall as possible, with about two corrugation overlap. The panels will provide a relatively secure external vapor/water barrier for the wall.

RE: the "upper" bath issue causing "lower" ceiling problems- It is VERY possible that the problem is a deteriorated wax toilet ring seal. Relatively simple solution is to remove the toilet- scrape away the old ring and replace with a high-grade "extended surface" (about 50% more wax that is molded "higher" than standard models) and re-install the toilet.

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02/13/2012 6:43 PM

I feel your pain!! I am from So, Cal USA, one of the driest climates in the country, but now live in the wettest city in the USA. Mobile Al. I own a building built in 1850, brick with flat roof. I had never ending leakage problems. They were solved with the smallest things. Check around all windows and re-caulk inside and out. Check your sculpers, they most likely have small leaks. The only way to fix them properly is to strip down and redo.If your outer wall has not been sealed do so

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02/13/2012 10:53 PM

India not same same USA fellas....

South East Asia also not same same as India but a lot closer in many ways.

Here's my $0.02 from a SEA perspective.

Buildings are built to a sturdy specification. There is normally no technical consideration made for water proofing other than keeping the rain out. Plumbing is rudimentary and poorly implemented.

Technically correct amelioration of damp wall conditions is frequently hampered by common walls between properties. Unless it is a plumbing problem there is not much you can do that won't totally disrupt the amenity of two properties for a long time. The risk of incidental damage and cascading complications is quite high and can end up being something you wished you had never started. Not something you just go ahead and do. Work supervision is challenging.

A common remedy is to tile the wall. In addition to tiling I have also seen terrazzo on walls which looks great (if done correctly) and naked, polished finish cement is featuring in some renovations. Eliminate the paint and it won't peel. Otherwise, as I have chosen to do at one place in my house, is to just put up with it and be prepared to repaint it when it gets too bad and experiment with topically applied waterproofing products in the grim hope that it may fix the problem or at least prolong the service interval. There are a lot of these products on the market, I cannot make a recommendation based on personal experience.

My bathrooms are bone dry inside and out. Bathrooms, and other wet areas, are one place where it is practical to actually introduce some technically correct precision into the implementation process.

Bathroom leakage problems are due to poor design, shoddy implementation, incorrect materials, structural movement, incompetent maintenance practices and quite frequently all of these.

Pekmar, I don't think that there is a patch solution for the bathroom. If the stain on the ceiling bothers you right now just cover it with a mirror or a poster.

The bathroom needs to be totally stripped out, waterproofed, properly drained, correctly plumbed, tiled and grouted from the bathroom side. Schedule and budget for a bathroom renovation as it suits your personal situation.

I would recommend that any resources that you were prepared to direct towards amelioration from the underside should be directed at a technically correct, permanent solution on the top side.

In most instances, if you have the resources AND it is practical to do so, a removal of the source of a problem is a better option to treating the symptoms.

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02/13/2012 11:23 PM

GA You started with exactly the point I was trying to make with my picture of flooding in India. India building structure and soil conditions are different than the USA. They're also vastly different in different parts of India. Arunachal Pradesh is the mountainous region that has the disputed McMahon line for a border. The climate varies greatly with elevation and according to Wikipedia the nominal summer rains span the range of 200 to 300 cm (80 to 120 in) in a season. This much rain combined with a long distance to travel to the ocean make controlling water tables a little bit of a challenge.

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02/16/2012 8:04 AM

Thanks for a valuable discussion..!!

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