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How to Identify and Purge Memory Resident Programs

02/12/2012 4:58 AM

Over time, my computer has become burdened by a lot of memory loss because of a plethora of resident programs. Task Manager lists over 60 such programs, frequently more. And, this is AFTER I've used an optimization utility to reduce the programs installed. I don't know how it chooses what's important and wish I did.

The OS is Windows XP Professional and while memory is maxed out at 4 gigabytes, the increase had no noticeable effect on this issue. I frequently must delete programs just to log onto the Internet.

Using Task Manager to delete programs is risky at best. Some disappear with no noticeable effect. Others cause problems when deleted and the system must be shut down and rebooted. Some programs consume large amounts of memory just by themselves. The cumulative effect of the many small ones is just as bad.

Can someone please suggest a utility that I can download that will list the purpose of resident memory programs and the parent software that installed them and provide a way of either deleting it or neutering it temporarily?

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02/12/2012 7:36 AM

What's your processor? You have 4 gig RAM? Harddrive size? A lot of programs use shared files, deleting them will effect other programs....60 programs? really... Do you use them all?

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02/12/2012 8:01 AM

There's a program called Starter, from CodeStuff. It gives a brief description as you scroll over each process, and offers some advice on the wisdom of altering how they run (which it can do for you). The interface is easy to use. It's a freebie, and I just noticed my version is pretty old. Not sure where I downloaded from, so I can't vouch directly for this site but take a peek.

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02/12/2012 9:34 AM

To give an idea, and save people downloading, here is a screen-snap;

Naff resolution, but hopefully enough. Centre pop-up box is detailing whatever process I had the mouse on. The unshown top of screen provides a mass of options.

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04/11/2012 9:19 AM

I just downloaded the software and the install packets. Thanks Kris

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04/11/2012 10:24 AM

You're welcome, Jaguar. Let us know what you reckon, I haven't used it in a while.

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02/12/2012 9:01 AM

I haven't tried any of these, but it seems worth a look. I may try some today. I'm with you. It's scary to just start deleting and disabling processes.

http://lifehacker.com/356876/reclaim-memory-by-mastering-windows-task-manager

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02/12/2012 9:26 AM

Hands up anybody who doesn't get excited by the 'do not do' stuff. "Warrenty void if..", fixings designed to stop investigation. The mere sight of a yellow triangle get's me buzzing. Usually it's only because I pee'd my pants, but one can live in hope of fun.

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02/12/2012 9:37 AM

I used to mess up my computers myself by trying different things. Now I've got a 4 year old daughter to do it for me. She can already log on to the web and go to the kids game site......................she also gets creative with the buttons she pushes. In a couple of minutes, she can make changes to my system that take me hours to figure out.

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02/12/2012 10:30 AM

Soooooo easy a 4 YO can do it! Love it! LOL

But, you ought to see what a 21 year old Autistic kid can do messing up a PC whenever he comes home to visit from his school. He's high functioning enough to find the porn sites with their viruses, trojans and malware. What the heck are they teaching him in that "special needs" school anyhow???? ARRRGGGGHH!!!!!!! It's cost me a small fortune to fix this PC repeatedly the past few years!

He's now officially banned from my office computer, my HP laptop, and all of the peripherals......and everything is password protected, and only I can gain access to the inner workings.

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02/12/2012 11:03 AM

Now that he's 21, you should go ahead and show him where the safe porn sites are.

I know, I know.....................you have no idea, right?

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02/12/2012 11:36 AM

I refuse to answer the question, on the grounds that I might self-incriminate myself......Taking the 5th Amendment!

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02/12/2012 11:13 AM

May I have my son back ? (not ****** you). Fortunately he knows enough of 'what to do' when on the computer, though I'm quite glad he delights in the porn sites. My ego enables me to put the lack of crashes to how I've set up the security, though in truth it's just that he knows I keep close tabs on what he does .

It's the mobile phone that catches me out. Younger niece visits and like to tinker. About all I can do is answer a call or make one. She changes the wallpaper, ringtones, and anything else she can think of. I am planning an escape from this; Most people I contact are local. Bin the phone, and get one of the youngsters to carry a written message .

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02/12/2012 11:29 AM

The 4 year old already wants an IPod, IPhone..........whatever.

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02/12/2012 11:55 AM

Mark, before you give her any of those "electronic toys" you had better sit down ad view this viral U-Tube that's been running the last week now:

http://digitallife.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/10/10373426-dad-punishes-facebook-post-with-8-bullets-to-daughters-laptop

Of course the ultra-liberal broadcast media is taken the whole thing way outta context, as usually is the case.......misleading sound bits mislead the gen public and sells sells sells. On the whole, I'd say at least 90% + of the postings on his Facebook wall are positive and agree with his method of "tough love"......after the fact, even his own daughter is in agreement with what he did!

He's down in your neck of the woods Bro. I applaud him for taking some strong parenting action, and would do the same. Most parents now days would have shrugged off the "dis" that this little teenage brat dislodged via her pie hole. So typical of the Y-Gen these days throughout our country....every one of 'em is "Entitled", for a lack of a better word.

Frankly, I would have used my AR-15 (Bushmaster XM-15 ES2, chambered for 5.56mm x 45mm NATO FMJ etc., usually 55 grain, unless I'm shooting with the new XM-193 stuff), instead of a 1911 .45 cal ACP, to punch holes in that laptop! I would have done the same with her cell phone, Ipad, etc. just to make a point! Man, is that guy pissed or what!?

Enjoy the movie! hehehehehehe

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02/12/2012 12:17 PM

Amen.............................I don't know how anyone could call that abuse.

There aren't many electronic gadgets around here. Unfortunately, getting them to understand the computer is a necessary evil.

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02/12/2012 12:43 PM

It'd be cheaper if we could just have iKids.

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02/13/2012 10:26 AM

Bill Gates ain't gona like this.....

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02/12/2012 1:43 PM

A couple of good PC maintenance utilities are available free here;

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

http://www.piriform.com/defraggler

If you want to get rid of unused programs I recommend going to your control panel / programs, then uninstall from there.

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02/12/2012 11:07 PM

Finally, someone getting back on the subject!!

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02/12/2012 2:09 PM

Revo un-installer will trace all associated files & folders and remove them. You can download a 30 day trial.

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02/13/2012 10:02 AM

Nigh, you have two GA's, so I'm interested. Are there any catches to the trial period ? Very often I've found myself installing stuff that ends up saying, after x time, 'pay now to subscribe and get this fixed'. I don't like freeloading unless the author makes it clear they are happy to share, but at the same time I wouldn't mind paying for a utility that has been test-driven and reviewed. If they are offering a fix for nothing, I'm certainly not going to complain. CCleaner has already been mentioned (as it has on numerous threads), and I'd second it as an 'easy to use' option. I run it several times a day for deleting guff, and periodically to check what is running. IOBIT offer a similar free utility, though for ease of use I prefer CCleaner. My usual port of call for software is MajorGeeks {usual disclaimers}.

Another question ; Does the utility carpet bomb ? ie just go ahead and sweep all. I'm slightly uncomfortable with handing total control over. Obviously it makes senses to do a registry back up and system restore point before doing any of the stuff being discussed here. Peer review on CR4 is a big factor in how I view all sorts of things.

The OP mentioned (I think) something like 40 odd processes running. It may be arduous, but manually switching off one at a time then re-boot may be safer. CR4 has many people far more in the know than me so I shall keep reading. Many thanks to you and the OP (think it was Jag, but sorry if I got that wrong). Many computing forums are very dry and staid - CR4 is one of the few places you can get sensible info that doesn't look like it was churned out by m/s.

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02/14/2012 4:28 AM

I've used the Revo uninstaller & it did what it said, it was a while ago so I don't know if it's changed in the current version. I would also endorse CCleaner as an easy to use clean up tool, I use it at home & at work. I also use Tracks Eraser Pro which I got free by signing up for a trial of something in the past. This is like CCleaner but also removes all the .dat files which log every web site you have ever visited. MajorGeeks is a top site. At home I pay for System Mechanic which gives me anti-virus & firewall as well as system clean-up & repair utilities. This lets you manage all of the start-up programmes.

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02/14/2012 2:55 PM

Many thanks, Nigh, I'll give Revo a test run.

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02/14/2012 5:58 PM

Good luck Kris. I should have mentioned that I originally found Revo through Major Geeks. I had a quick look on the M.G. site & there are lots of endorsements for Revo but there was also a comment that it does not work so well on 64 bit programmes.

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02/12/2012 9:17 PM

I have 'Answers That Work, The Ultimate Troubleshooter' that I have used for years to identify tasks, services, and startups. I find it quite informative and useful.

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02/13/2012 12:11 AM

Try Start->Run msconfig (requires admin privilages)

Click the startup tab.

This gives you a list all the installed programs that are automatically started and become memory resident.

Uncheck the box on the line item to disable the autostart feature. The item will remain if you change your mind.

Every manufacturer seem to think they are constantly useful, but clicking the menu or icon for the program will start it when you need it.

Things you don't want to turn off: Windows OS, Virus checker, Firewall, Pointer Device, Display and Wireless entries. Everything else is fair game and if something you want stops working just goback and check the box again.

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02/13/2012 1:19 PM

On my system (Windows XP) you can turn off EVERY-thing except the virus checker. It wants to reboot then. Check later, because some of them come back--automatically enabled by the programs. I shut them off monthly.

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02/13/2012 9:13 AM

Deleting programs isn't the best way to do it. Use the Add/Remove Programs utility under your Control Panel to remove the programs you don't need anymore.

Then do a degrag which kind of reshuffles the deck, purging the space that was once occupied by the programs you removed. No other applications should be running when you do this, as this will significantly slow down the process. You can even use Task Scheduler to do this for you on a regular basis.

Then you can do a disc clean-up.

Do you have CAD software on your machine?

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02/13/2012 10:57 AM

Steve asked: "Do you have CAD software on your machine?"

Wow! How remarkably intuitive! Yes. I have Solidworks, Pro Engineer and Catia.

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02/13/2012 11:30 AM

It might be worth taking a look at your CAD setup.

I don't use any of those programs you have. But MY software [Inventor] can be a memory hog unless I employ some memory management tools, like Levels of Detail, on the really big assemblies. Inventor can also leave a copy of a checked-in file on my C: drive, so I need to clean THAT drive out on a regular basis. I currently have XP 64-bit with 12G of ram, but my Inventor suffered memory leak with my old 32-bit system. I'm not sure that was an OS problem though.

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02/13/2012 10:54 AM

You may try the Software Explorer associated with Windows Defender; free software from Microsoft.

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