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Fiber Optic Network for POS/CCTV

03/29/2012 12:22 PM

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I am planning to set up a fiber optic network with limited knowledge of fiber optics. We have to connect Point Of Sale (POS) Terminals and CCTv's to our servers. The POS and CCTV are situated at far off places from server room ranging from 10m to 600m. I am planning to lay three 24 core multimode 62.5/125MM outdoor breakout type fiber optic cables from server room (say building A) to building B, C and D for further distribution to POS and CCTV's from these buildings. I am going to use 100 BaseTX to 1000BaseFX media converter at each POS and video to optical converter for CCTV's. From Distribution/Patch panels in buildings B, C and D to POS terminal and CCTV locations I am going to use 4 core multimode 62.5/125MM outdoor breakout type fiber optic cables terminated close to the devices (POS/CCTV) in sub-distribution/patch panels. Onwards CAT 5 will be used to connect POS terminals and CCTV. In summary, the connections from POS terminals and CCTV's will be CAT 5 upto sub-distribution/patch panels where media converters will be installed. Then form sub-distribution panels Fiber optic cables will run upto distribution panels in Buildings B, C and D and further cables from B, C and D will be terminated in a patch panel in the server room. Form patch panel in the server room patch cords will be used to connect the POS terminals directly to a fiber optic switch (HP 5800-24G-SFP Switch) and CCTV's to a DVR.

Please guide me if I am going in the right direction. Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.

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Re: Fiber Optic Network for POS/CCTV

03/29/2012 12:59 PM

Wouldn't going wireless be much cheaper?

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03/30/2012 9:31 AM

Wireless would be much cheaper but not nearly as secure. Most credit card processors won't allow connection to the POS terminal via wireless. Many require a completely independent subnet even on a wired system.

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03/29/2012 1:28 PM

I believe you have a well thought out plan here. The fiber between buildings will eliminate transient run-ins when lightning strikes nearby, and will also give you near instantaneous speed.

A project this complex usually comes with some bugs and "out of box bad" equipment. The end result will be satisfying however.

Good luck !!

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03/29/2012 10:48 PM

You seem to be on the right track. I won't bore everyone with details, but if you need further assistance with set-up or debugging, I can (hopefully) help...I'm in the industry (not sales) of designing and managing production of such 'modems'. I won't sell you anything, so PM if you need info.

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03/30/2012 10:30 AM

Abid,

You are proposing to use outdated materials. The fiber optic cable should be 50micron Laser Optimized, 350m grade OM3. 2x12 core fiber will be more economical due to commoditization. The 4 core fiber will be more expensive than 6 core due to commoditization of the 6 core version. You could consider using indoor/outdoor fiber, so it wouldn't be neccessary to "build it up" for termination, this fiber also doesn't need to be changed in type as it enters a building, which is normally a code requirement. The copper should be at least Cat 6 spec, or even Cat 6e for ROI purposes. Everything else sound reasonable.

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03/30/2012 11:28 AM

Thanks to all members.

Please suggest also about the type of connectors (SC, ST, LC, etc.) I should use to get the good results.

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03/31/2012 9:23 AM

LC is the lowest loss connector available, and it's the smallest form factor. You also can get the media converters designed with a GBIC in it for the fiber interface, so you could change it if the technology changes. If your camers equipment needs a different connector style, do the conversion in the jumper. ie LC to SC

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04/01/2012 12:44 AM

Thanks Wisf7

One more question please. Media converter has two jacks namely Rx and Tx, as I am going to use multimode fiber, does this mean that I have to use only one fiber for each device or still I have to use two fibers per machine. Some converters are available with the option to choose single or multimode. What about those converters. Thanks in advance.

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04/01/2012 7:26 PM

If the media converter has Tx and Rx as seperate I/O then yes you need two fibers per converter. You mentioned originally that your distances are 10m to 600m and that you are using multimode fiber...so go with multimode transceivers. Multimode fiber is (or should be) cheaper than single mode, and is OK to use for distances of no more than 3km. If the distance is greater than 3km, use singlemode systems.

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04/01/2012 7:43 PM

Single mode & Multimode are fiber types, it refers indirectly to the fiber core size, which drives bandwidth capabilities. RX & TX each get one core of fiber, they work together as a pair (one port). You stated in your original post that you would use multimode fiber, in that case, then you would use multimode media converters. This could get somewhat detailed. Do you have a network design diagram? This should be done to to be able to calculate the loss budgets/distances completely.

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Re: Fiber Optic Network for POS/CCTV

04/02/2012 1:07 AM

Thanks a lot to all members. Thanks to Rowland and Daffy. I Got a lot of doubts cleared.

We are still working on to find a suitable cable route to get the actual length and finalize the drawings.

Thanks again

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Re: Fiber Optic Network for POS/CCTV

04/01/2012 1:38 AM

I am not an expert in this field . But my doubt is, for long distances single mode FO cable will be more suitable than multi mode FO cable ?

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