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Power Factor Rating

04/10/2012 7:00 PM

I understand why transformer ratings are in VA or KVA, because of the power factor rating, but why is this rating not put acrosss all devices that has power factor ratings. Instead they are rated as watts. For example flourescent tubes, even led light engines are rated as watts, despite them having a power factor of .60. I wonder why?

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Re: Power Factor Rating

04/10/2012 9:12 PM

maybe because you can deduce that the amperage of a flourescent tube is constant while in transformers and engines it depends on the load?

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Re: Power Factor Rating

04/11/2012 1:54 AM

load can be inductive or capacitive?

that's why we cant use generally the rating of transformer in KW because its depending upon inductive or capacitive load by which we can decrease or increase our PF as well as KW.

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04/10/2012 10:06 PM

You try explaining to Mrs. Brown that her appliance is XX VA.

She has trouble getting her head around a 60 watt lamp.

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Re: Power Factor Rating

04/11/2012 12:08 AM

Such a miniscule load as a flourescent tube, regardless of PF, has no meaningful effect on the PF of a power distribution system.

Good question, Ive never heard a historic answer- I assume its from the early 1900s.

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04/11/2012 1:25 PM

An ordinary consumer is only interested in how much he/she would pay for (better say, save on) electricity with those lamps.

Lightened by many thousands in the houses of a big city they, however, influence the PF in the city grid, but it's an interest of others.

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04/12/2012 12:54 AM

The real reason why no device brings a Power Factor specified is because The power factor is dependant on the combination of Resistive, capacitive And inductive loads connected to a circuit or electrical network at any specific time, defining in this way the Efficiency in the use of the energy consumed in The circuit or electrical network by The combination Of a all devices interconnected. Kpitch!!! Rafael L. Lama, P.E. rlama@caribe.net http://casadominicanadepuertorrico.ning.com

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Re: Power Factor Rating

04/12/2012 3:53 AM

Check the PF of a computer. OK not the biggest load in the world but as you make the computer work so the PF changes.

Fluorescent lights have been mentioned. Generally the 'energy efficient' are anything but that. Yes - they be 9W or 11W but they are no where near 9VA or 11VA. Generally the PF is around 0.5. More green lies to confuse the public.

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04/12/2012 5:52 AM

Transformers & Genrators are wound with wires with certain current calculations. VA directly tells you the maximum current carrying capacity assuming constant voltage. If given in kW, there is likely under-utilisation or over-loading if the load pf varies.

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04/17/2012 5:36 AM

To ::All

Thanks for ur valuble inputs on this topic, it has been very engaging and informative.

Thanks again for sharing ur experience!

shalom..

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