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Comparison of Standards

06/01/2012 7:05 AM

Dear Specialists,

I am working for a piping system consisting of SS pipes and fittings. Need some clarification please -

a. The specification says - The Stainless Steel Pipes to be as per ASTMA312 GrTP316L with dimensions to ANSI B36.19 Sch. 40. The clarification solicited is "Can understand ASTM A312 Gr TP refers to Austenitic Stainless Steel Pipe of which 304, 316, 321 and 347 are grades. But I dont see the additional version "L" as ASTMA312Gr.TP316 L. Is it also a common variety?"

b. The specification for fittings upto 50 mm reads - Line Joint upto 50 NB to be socket welded as per ANSI B 16.11. Material of construction to be ASTMA403Gr.WP316. Dimension to be as per ANSIB16.9 Sch.40S.

Clarification - 1: The clarification solicted are ANSI B16.11 seems to show the dimensions and weight and similarly ANSI B16.9 seems to show the dimensions and weight. Then please clarify the difference.

Clarification - 2: Does ANSI B 16.11 refer to the NPT threading / buttwelding required?

Clarification - 3: Also how to rate the 3000 lbs to the pressure in psi or kg(f)/sq.cm working?

Clarification - 4: Is there any reference chart for the same?

c. The specification for sizes above 50 NB to be line joint butt welded as per ANSIB16.25. Material of construction to be ASTMA403Gr.WP316. Dimension to be as per ANSIB16.9 Sch.40S.

Similar to above, please clarify on about ANSI B16.25 and ANSI B16.9.

Also why some standards say 3000 lbs, others say 150 lbs.

Probably a lot of queries but solicit feedback.

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K.Muthukrishnan

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Re: Comparison of Standards

06/01/2012 8:19 PM

316L is a low carbon version of 316...

http://www.finishing.com/143/56.shtml


#1- one deals with the material to be used, the other the dimensions... consult the code book for rest...
ANSI B16.25 and others...

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Re: Comparison of Standards

06/07/2012 3:01 PM

Thanks colleagues,

Did further study and still feel the specification could be wrong - A fitting socket welded to ANSI B 16.11 for sizes upto 50 mm, would be of 3000 lb or 6000 lb ratings and would not be able to meet the ANSI B 16.9 Sch. 40 Specifications.

But butt-welded fittings above 50 mm could be to ANSI B 16.9 Sch. 40 Specifications but the end could be made to ANSI B 16.25.

Hence both the original specs. could be wrong.

However in both cases, the fittings MOC can be ASTMA403 Gr.WP416.

Your feedback please to conclude this Technical issue.

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K.Muthukrishnan

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Re: Comparison of Standards

06/02/2012 2:01 AM

About your doubt 'a', what is your application?

In SS difference between grades 316 & 316L is mainly due to carbon content. Carbon content in SS316 is 0.08% max. whereas in SS316L it is 0.03% max. Welding quality in SS316L is better, also it's less brittle. SS316L is better suited for cryogenic applications and oxygen service pipings.

Your other queries or of homework nature. Go through the relevant standards and discuus people around you to clarify yourself.

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