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Air Flow Switch That Can Discern Between FWD+REV

10/23/2012 1:18 PM

Have a very immediate need for 20-40 units. Air Flow Switch that can not only sense flow in either direction, it must be able to discern between Forward and Reverse flow and provide contact output. Insertion style-for 4", 6" and 8" lines preferred. Does anybody know of a supplier?

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10/23/2012 1:44 PM

I don't know if anyone has anything specific in mind, but you could peruse GlobalSpec's collection of Gas Flow Switches. [shameless plug]

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Re: Air Flow Switch That Can Discern Between FWD+REV

10/23/2012 2:22 PM

Is it possible to use two lines, each housing a check valve in opposite directions, so flow is forced through one line while going forward, and flow is forced through the second line while moving reverse? Then you can use a simple cost effective flow meter in each line, and determining direction of flow is foolproof.

just a thought...

Otherwise, I'm sure someone somewhere makes a device that you are after, as long as you have the to spend.

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10/23/2012 2:34 PM

If you are still looking for one, then continue HERE

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10/23/2012 3:10 PM

The google search just brought us back here, and the links underneath weren't very helpful. "C" for effort, "D" for usefulness, and "B" for relevance :p

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10/23/2012 3:40 PM

That is a very bad score card indeed. Will think twice before putting a link.

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10/23/2012 3:43 PM

It happens to the best of us. I sometimes go one step further and post broken links :x

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10/23/2012 3:47 PM

Thank you, Mizuti. You are very considerate & kind.

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10/23/2012 4:22 PM

Here are some manufacturer of air flow switch. Please search among their range of products. With some luck, you may locate a suitable one.

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10/23/2012 4:54 PM

Thanks,

Been searching all day, will continue. Cannot yet accept the fact that this product does not exist.

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10/23/2012 4:59 PM

Wish you good luck dear Ron Shorts

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10/23/2012 6:50 PM

Does anybody make a 1/4, or less flapper valve arrangement to put at the top of the pipe at a joint? Then a position sensor on the output shaft to measure angle and convert that to velocity?

Should be able to sense direction and velocity with some contraption like that.

Simple enough. LynDoor™Ind. might have something.

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10/23/2012 11:49 PM

Yes, SIEMENS makes an airflow sensor, that is directional sensitive. It is a spring loaded paddle connected to a microswitch. It is installed by screwing it into a cutout on the duct. Sensitivity is changed by the size of the paddle. It is working from low flow to what I consider medium flow environment. Very reliable, having used for decades. Sorry, no part numbers, as I did not need that for a long time.

It is so simple, that when you get my drift, you can build an adequate one in a day or two.

What the heck you mean with insertion style is nebulous: any sensing has to be in the inside anyhow, the switch may or may not be.

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10/24/2012 8:41 AM

Thanks for the feedback, will investigate the Siemens solution that you've recommended. I probably should have indicated that my application is in 4", 6" and 8" pipe. When I referred to "insertion style", I meant inserted via a thread-o-let, versus a flanged or threaded "inline" version.

Many Thanks,

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10/24/2012 9:01 AM

Post # 13 If you Google as suggested, sail switch you will get more leads.

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10/24/2012 1:03 AM

I suspect you will have better luck searching for a "sail switch".

These are usually a polyester foil sail mounted to a microswitch. Honeywell does bidirectional ones.

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Re: Air Flow Switch That Can Discern Between FWD+REV

10/24/2012 1:36 PM

Have you tried Honeywell, Johnson Controls, KMC COntrols, Dwyer or Emerson Rosemount? -Dave

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