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Want Guidance/Help for Shell Modelling

11/20/2012 4:40 AM

Hi,

I am trying to do SHELL modeling of a problem to get Bending moment, Shear force, Axial Force etc.

Problem can be simply explained as below:

Model is just a like a room (block) with 4 surrounding wall, a roof and ground (Base).

Height (H) of (any) pair of opposite walls are not same, i.e say H front = 5m and H rear = 3m.

(Base) ground is straight whereas roof is inclined from front wall towards rear wall.

Problem can be sketched as below:

/ @

Roof / l

/ l

/ l

/ l

/ l

l l

Wrear (3m)l l W front (5m)

l l

@ l _Base_l

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Now I have prepared surface model of all walls considering mid-surface. My concern is of modeling front wall and rear wall.

I have model mid surface of both front and rear walls along with roof. But when I describe thickness during analysis (in ANSYS), I face a probelm at wall junctions with ROOF.

At 1 junction, Front wall (partly) penetrates inside roof and there is (partly) gap between them. Whereas at other junction there is a gap between roof and rear wall and also roof penetrates rear wall partly.

I am new to SHELL modeling. Kindly note that Roof is actually an Arch shaped (and not plain Slab type)

Any guidance/help/tips to solve this problem.

Thankyou

Amit

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Re: Want guidance/help for Shell Modelling

11/20/2012 6:00 AM

Follow your mentor's advice.

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Re: Want guidance/help for Shell Modelling

11/20/2012 7:23 AM
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Re: Want Guidance/Help for Shell Modelling

11/20/2012 10:24 AM

Shell atomic model

OK, Just havin' a little fun.

What did your instructor have to say about this??

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Re: Want Guidance/Help for Shell Modelling

11/20/2012 11:34 PM

Shell modelling (meshing) is more trouble than it's worth! It will not take into account detail areas and it takes extremely long to set up. Solid meshing is the best approach. Yes it's more demanding on CPU resources but it's more flexible and far faster to setup. The CPU processing time is by far less than the time it takes to correctly mesh surfaces. Solid meshing can introduce more errors compared to shell but...your not working to aircraft spec margins of safety like 1.5:1 so it's irrelevant for typical structural work.

Tell your instructor I said so!!

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Re: Want Guidance/Help for Shell Modelling

11/21/2012 2:44 AM

ThanX for reading and giving (useful) inputs.

Can anyone say/guide me to get bending moment, shear force etc from Solid modeling.

My concern is to get above results when roof (of room) is loaded (Static Structural Analysis).

ThanX,

Amit

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Re: Want Guidance/Help for Shell Modelling

11/21/2012 8:12 AM

I've never used ANSYS, but I believe that you can arrive at the bending moments, shear forces, axial forces and reactions much faster by using the "arch" formulas found in "Roark's Stress and Strain" handbook......

If you do not already have it, you can find free e-book downloads of it on the web in a number of places. All you have to do is perform a Google Search.

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