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Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

11/21/2012 2:17 AM

Dear Forum members,

I need a clarification for a practical problem. One of our customer is planning to set up a test bed for 750 V DC 900 KW DC motor. The scheme is as follows :

There will be 3 Nos of 625 KVA 415 V AC DG synchronising panel which will be used to power a test bed. The 3 DG's will be synchronised and fed to transformer rating of 1500 KVA 415 V AC ( primary- star and secondary - Delta) through a ACB of 415 V rating. This is step up transformer which steps up yhr voltage from 415 V AC to 800 V AC . The secondary of transformer is connected to Thyristor panel through a ACB. My doubt is regarding the specifications of ACB. in order to feed a constant voltage of 750 v DC to the DC motor whether 800 V AC is sufficient. Do we not have to account for the Voltage drop in the cable and the thyristor panel. I think as per the above reply given by Mr. GW, the AC voltage on the input side of Thyrisator panel should be

V ac= 0.816 x Vdc. Is my calculation correct. What are the other factors to be taken into consideration while selection of switchgear and transformer. Please advice .

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Re: Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

11/21/2012 2:42 PM

Who/what is Mr.GW ?

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Re: Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

11/22/2012 12:35 AM

It appears something wrong in your AC to DC conversion calculation.For a three phase rectifier DC output will be 1.35 times AC input.So if you want 750 V DC your Ac input should be around 555 Volts and not 800 V.Regarding ACB,Voltage rating of 1100 V may be appropriate,but the current rating and its setting has to be chosen in consultation with thyristor panel suppliers.I personally prefer quick acting fuse/semi conductor fuse

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Re: Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

11/22/2012 1:34 AM

Dear Mr. Ramasmy,

I thank you for your advice on my problem. This is a enquiry for ACB panel and looking at the information and SLD furnished by the customer who will be manufacturing the converter transformer. I do agree with you that for protection of Thyristors, Semiconductor fuses are required, which probably will be incorporated in the thyristor panel.Also voltage drops need to be accounted for between the output of transformer and the output terminals of Thyristor panel. I would share more information on the above matter after I discuss in detail with the client.

Thanking you for the good information

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Re: Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

11/24/2012 7:06 AM

Try this

AC=DC/.636

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Re: Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

11/24/2012 8:41 AM

What is the origin of your formula? Can you give some citations?

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Re: Regarding ACB Protection for SCR Panel

12/06/2012 1:25 PM

You say thyrister panel which leads me to believe it has thyristers (silicon controled rectifiers) as opposed to simple rectifiers. As such it will have gate firing controls to control the output voltage (below maximum of about1000 VDC). As to the air circuit breaker, limiting factor is transformer which is capable of about 1100 amps (smaller than 1875 KVA of generators). Code (assuming United States or equivelant) allows you to go up to 125% (about 1300 Amp). Motor (at full load) will need about 1200 Amps but because of phase firing this will probably show as under 1000 Amp AC.

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